I was in the middle of making dinner when this happened. I’m grateful I poured it into a measuring cup first. Thankfully I don’t live too far from another source.

I remember milk staying good almost a week past its expiration date when I was a kid. Boy have the times changed.

  • olbaidiablo @lemmy.ca
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    Thankfully I don’t think we have Walmart store brand milk here in Canada. We also don’t allow hormones either.

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    Tip: Lactose-free milk tastes the same, is easier on your digestive system, and doesn’t expire for over a month.

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      It doesn’t taste the same. The lactase breaks the less sweet lactose into glucose and galactose, which are about twice as sweet as lactose (all are less sweet than table sugar.)

      Also lactose free milk is typically ultra pasteurized, which gives it the longer shelf life, but ultra pasteurization does impact taste. It gives it a “cooked” flavor.

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        I’ve never noticed a change in taste, but I mostly buy 2% milk. Fairlife does taste creamier to me than other brands, likely due to its “ultra filtered” process however that works. I do wish that brand came in cartons instead of plastic bottles though.

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      Is your lactose free milk prepared/packaged differently from your regular milk? The two keep for just as long here.

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        Not really. All I know is when I buy Lactaid, or Fairlife, or one of the many other lactose-free brands in the US, their sell by date is usually around 30 days. “Normal” milk is usually sell by 7-10 days here.

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      It’s also not entirely lactose free. Ask me how I know.

      Cries in lactose intolerance

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      Lactose-free milk is much sweeter than regular milk and expires in the same amount of time unless you’re buying the long life version.

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        Yep. That’s because they don’t actually remove the lactose. They add lactase which cleaves the lactose into simpler sugars, increasing the sweetness.

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      You mean the largest retailer in America has customers?

      I’m shocked. SHOCKED!

      i personally never go there. But I live 7 timezones away from the nearest one.

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          They’ve had food for at least 3 decades why is that at all surprising? Hell, our Home Depot has a bbq night it would be honestly weirder if they didn’t sell food.

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            I wouldn’t know, I think I have been in walmart maybe 3 times in my life (they never have anything worth buying I noticed).

            But I have followed their business plan pretty closely, and choosing the cheapest lowest quality everything makes me think food is the last possible thing I would buy from them. I am shocked they even carry food frankly.

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              You’ve been there 3 times and didn’t notice the food so I’m going to go ahead and say you don’t sound too observant.

              The “pantry” side of the business is easily a third of their profits. How do you follow a business plan without knowing their revenue streams?

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                Because their business plan is reduce the price, create cheaper knock-offs and eliminate the original competition.

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      The American version of those are fun. Two months before the expiration date, stored in a dark space around 50F or less, they separate into globs. Not spoiled, just separated. Globs settle in the bottom of coffee. Once you get enough air in there, you can shake the everloving shit out of it, and the globs break apart into a delightful foam that floats on top.

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    I’ve had milk two weeks past that still smelled good. I poured it out anyway. The secret to milk is that it has to stay cold. If it warms even a bit the shelf life is cut way short.

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      I just had one where I didn’t use it at all for a few weeks, and it was a few days past the expiration date. This may help, but it wasn’t opened yet. My wife was like, “Throw it out!” And I was like no ill take the risk. Decided to have cereal the next morning and was pleasantly surprised it was perfectly fine and was able to use it all within the next 3 days.

      Then again, I have had times where i just got it, and 2 days later, it was super gross. Here’s looking at you stop and shop store brand milk… got burned twice like that, and I have never purchased it again. I hate that store so much.

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        Milk is so easy to tell if it’s spoiled, no reason to throw it out without a sniff test.

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      Not necessarily true. As soon as your crack the seal on pasteurized milk, the Bacillus cereus spores start to germinate even if cold. There is a strain that thrives at fridge temps and within a few days the milk is now full of cereulide toxins. Badtimes at the hospital.

      UHT milk would kill the spores though at the factory so it’s safer to keep longer.

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        Isn’t UHT ultra high temperature? isn’t that the same as pasteurization?

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          Pasteurization is only about 75°C for about half a minute. This kills any living bacteria in food. That’s why milk packing has warning on how to store it and how to use it. But if the pack is labeled UHT you have more leeway. UHT is high pressure and temp to get up to 130 to 150°C but for only about 3 to 5 seconds. This kills bacteria spores which can survive boiling at 100°C. Yes really. Like the above bacteria mentioned, only UHT can kill the spores. It evolved so that once the temp and moisture is right the spores breakout like Alien from the egg and start multiplying bacteria immediately, within hours.

          Note that heat cannot deactive the bacteria shit aka toxins. So even though the bacteria colony can be dead when u recook spoilt food, the toxins will still kill you.

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            Neat, thanks for the explainer ! I had incorrectly assumed pasteurization was done at the boiling point of water… Cheers

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        That doesn’t look bad. That looks like it didn’t get homogenized. The “chunks” is just cream. Put the cap back on and shake it up.

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            It doesn’t look curdled, though. The liquid doesn’t look yellowish and semi transparent enough.

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            And it’s possible that this batch simply missed the step. I know people who threw out glass bottled milk because they were too yuppie to know any better. Glass bottled stuff is often not homogenized, so I know what it looks like. OP didn’t mention any smell, so I’m not convinced.

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              I don’t want to get into the intricacies of milk processing for mass commercial scale, so I won’t explain the whole thing, but in short: no, it absolutely could not have missed that step.

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                  I’d love to show you a video or something but everything I’m seeing online is super vague and the couple I watched to completion to see if they showed what I’m talking about ended up being “dairy industry cares about cows” propaganda. The milk is moved from place to place by pipes, not by humans dumping it into vats who could make mistakes.

                  The only way it could make it through the whole process without homogenization on a standard line meant for homogenized milk is if the ultrafine mesh the milk is forced through to homogenize it were for some reason missing and the batch were sent through anyway, which shouldn’t be possible if proper Service In Place procedures are being followed (lockout tagout for out of service lines).

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        Ah i see. With full fat non homogenized milk you always have a big chunk of separated out pure fat/cream sitting on top, but i guess that not it in this case? If in doubt just taste test it, a few droplets of spoiled milk wont harm you.

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      Indeed. I order unsweetened soy milk once a year so I don’t have to carry it from the store and never run out. 80 1L packs. Still good after a year, no animals were harmed in the process. Even after a year I can leave an opened pack which is far passed it’s expiration date in the fridge for a week without it going bad.

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    I know these solutions cost more but if you’re having trouble with frequent spoilage this might save you $$

    1. For cow milk, try and buy organic in a container that blocks light. I find these to have extra long expiration dates compared to plastic jug regular milk… Often 2-3 months from purchase and it is often unspoiled past that.

    2. Try unsweetened original almond milk. I find it hard to tell the difference and the almond milk I buy can last 4-5 months in my fridge if I don’t use it sooner.

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      You can’t tell the difference between almond milk and cow’s milk? More power to you, but I find that hard to believe.