i just really hate snap
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It’s fine Snap, I didn’t need to be able to set a default browser or connect it to other programs anyways ☺️
I’ve been specifically avoiding Ubuntu because of snaps, innstead preferring Ubuntu derivatives that don’t use it, like Mint and Pop.
And more recently, trying an entirely different approach with Arch.
And yes - I could get rid of snaps in Ubuntu if I wanted. But everything is just a little more annoying when you are going against the conventions of your distro.
I love pop, just so you know 🙂
It’s called soda.
They could be talking about bubble wrap to be fair
You could try Debian, it’s basically Ubuntu without snaps.
I installed Linux Mint Debian Edition yesterday. I like it so far. Lots better than ubuntu.
I could.
Though I suppose it may be semantically more appropriate to say that Ubuntu is Debian with snaps (and with a bunch of other stuff too)
Thank you! It always irritates me when someone does say Debian is Ubuntu but without XYZ… No, Debian was first. Ubuntu is a Debian child that got molded into something that no Linux should ever be…
Linux Mint is Debian with snaps without snaps!
(I am now going to take this opportunity to point you all towards Linux Mint DE (Debian Edition))
switched to Debian from fedora after IBM started sticking their little dick fingers in everything.
little dick fingers
Definitely stealing this
More like Ubuntu is Debian with snaps and a CEO
It’s made even worse by some software pretending to be Ubuntu builds but just quietly installing a Snap version instead.
Looking at you, Firefox. 👀
Switched to EndeavourOS a couple of years ago as my main, and its been amazing. No regrets.
I always read ‘did not finish’
The most racing of all the package managers
Or the least.
I used to work at the devil and I heard DNF from players all the time. Once I realized DNF was the package manager in fedora (recent switch) I never forgot the command again. It’s burned into my brain.
dnf5 ist pretty fast, almost pacman/apk level fast
DNF (abbreviation for Dandified YUM)
These guys at Redhat don’t know how abbreviations work, I guess.
I always see “did not find”
What’s snap? I use LMDE and i don’t think i have that.
yay
obligatory “something something aur is a haunted wasteland and it’s your fault for ignoring the forty warning signs”
So, I’m a novice Linux user and have been on Ubuntu for maybe 2 years now. And I’m just starting to hit the SNAPS wall - IE, just a bit too much of what I want doesn’t install through snaps. Is there a good progression for my “next distro after Ubuntu?”. Still need some training wheels, but ready to take the next step.
Another vote for Mint. I run Mint on anything graphical and straight Debian on anything headless; ten years ago that was Ubuntu and Debian instead
Look at Fedora or OpenSUSE.
I also vouch for Mint in your case because it’s based on Ubuntu there is less of a learning curve than Fedora/OpenSuse
Is there a good progression for my “next distro after Ubuntu?”.
Yes. Linux Mint has got your back.
I have ubuntu on my server and I really need to switch it. It’s such a dick move when you apt install something and it opts for a snap. I just roll my eyes and groan when I think of having to back up EVERYTHING (music, media, dockers configs, compiled projects, random projects, etc) in order to switch the distro. I dont’ have the time to do it. It’s like nearly 2TB worth of stuff.
Isn’t the default installation of Ubuntu to BTRFS? In which case, you should have an
subvolume with Ubuntu that’s mounted to/, and an@homesubvolume that’s mounted to/home.Make a new subvolume, install a new operating system into it, and choose that subvolume in the bootloader, should be able to have Ubuntu and ‘your favourite OS’ (I use Arch btw) living side-by-side with the same home directory.
…you can do that? Huh.
i’ve been waiting for an update to break Cachy, before reinstalling, but nothing seems to break like my previous Arch based distros. I put BTRFS on everything because snapshots are the best.
Where is Nix? Oh right, he’s in space, chilling.
nixpkgs is still kicking off their build pipeline, they’ll be here in 4 days
As someone who is new to Linux, with Ubuntu Studio installed on a PC, I have absolutely no idea why Ubuntu is seemingly hated by everyone on lemmy. I just don’t get it. Seems to work fine, Installation was easy. Sure I had to tinker to get yabridge going, but that’s sorted now
I just don’t get it
I have absolutely no idea why Ubuntu is seemingly hated by everyone on lemmy.
It’s Snaps.
I mentioned somewhere else that my reason for using Linux is that, when I have a problem, no one designed that problem to extract money from me.
Snaps feel designed to extract money.
The funny part is, I’ve bought Ubuntu CDs just to support Canonical. I like giving them money.
But Snaps feel like more of the kind of bullshit that I left Windows over, to me.
Snaps redirect some of my software requests from fully free community packages into a partially paid app store. They’re not (yet) ripping me off, they just appear to be getting ready to rip me off.
Seems to work fine, Installation was easy.
Yes. Ubuntu is a fine place to start. It was the first Linux distro that really worked for me.
Eventually, down the line, Snap may cause you some headaches, so we generally recommend Mint, which is effectively Ubuntu without Snap.
The anger is just that Canonical keeps claiming to be an ally while appearing to prepare to rip people off by selling other people’s work that they gave away for free, for a fee.
For context, many companies that have joined FOSS community have gone in this direction. People can be trustworthy. Corporations cannot, because they get sold or their CEO changes.
When our powers combine we become…! Ah shit! I need yo reinstall, the snap is reading from the apt folder again!
I just don’t see the point of them when there are flatpaks. I’m not super knowledgeable on Snaps so maybe there’s some huge benefit I don’t know about, but they always just seemed like a worse version of flatpak to me.
