But dying just 30 times to a boss? Took me about 170 attempts to kill King Slime in Infernum, after reworking my arena multiple times. I’m very bad at the game.
I get that completely lol. I’ve definitely fought bosses before that put me in the hundreds. Hell, I remember when Terraria 1.4 first came out with the “for the worthy” secret seed and I tried that out on master mode. I must have died well over 100 times to the brain of cthulhu in that seed, which is crazy because it’s usually one of the easiest bosses imo. For the first time in my life I had to set up a damn vicious mushroom farm because I was shredding through those spawners. And I was playing vanilla! The wall of flesh was equally challenging and annoying to get spawners for. I was using melee, and this was before the huge melee buff that came in 1.4.4.
Funny enough, my current playthrough is a bit easier than it should be thanks to the lag I mentioned. My options are either turn frame skip to subtle, and have my game move at like 66% of it’s normal speed (allowing me to react easier), or set it to on and watch as bosses use insane attacks without warning because the telegraph frames got skipped. Bit unfortunate, but I can’t really experience some bosses fully, and I can’t really do anything about it. That’s the main reason I’d recommend using Infernal Eclipse of Ragnarok over Homeward Ragnarok.
I will never forget even Yahron, much less Calamitas on Revengeance in 2020. Played ranger. But it literally took me a week of constant battles to beat Calamitas once. (After that, even with post-Calamitas equip and with duping, I still had trouble killing it.)
But Infernum Queen Slime? Lol, we beat it in team only thanks to respawn items. Infernum bosses are on the top level of crack, and I love it so much. Those battles are so much fun, yet so stressful. Also visually stunning.
Never tried any special vanilla seeds. Are they difficult compared to Infernum? Or if you once start owning Infernum, vanilla is a piece of cake?
Playing with lag sounds awful, and it’s sad it prevents the true experience. So thank you so much for your advice, much appreciated.
For The Worthy and Get Fixed Boi (which is just all the vanilla seeds including FTW combined) are both difficult in a different way from something like Infernum. While Infernum completely reworks boss fights, often feeling like a completely different fight all together, FTW is more like Vanilla+. Like, many of the bosses just attack faster and more often, summoning more minions and doing more damage. At most a boss might get a new attack or two, like skeletron summoning dark casters to shoot at you throughout the fight and the brain of cthulhu flipping you upside-down during its second phase. I should stress though, it’s not easy by any means. Dark casters interrupting your flow during an already sped-up and beefed-up skeletron fight is surprisingly difficult. It’s kinda similar to Infernum mode King Slime, where you need to dodge the slime, crystal, and ninja simultaneously by the third phase (though maybe not quite as hard).
Get Fixed Boi especially is a pretty interesting experience. Unlike most mods, it’s got a kinda anti-QoL vibe, making your life more difficult throughout the entire game rather than just during boss fights. Darkness kills you, bunnies explode, you spawn in the underworld, the entire surface is corrupted with spawn rates cranked up, the dungeon is underground, among other things. I’d recommend giving it a shot at some point.
I know Calamity has support for both seeds. It actually has support for FTW + Rev/Death Mode, and additional content for Legendary mode (i.e. Master + FTW) + Rev/Death. I don’t know if Infernum supports them, but I’d be willing to bet Legendary Death mode would be pretty similar in difficulty to Infernum, though I haven’t tried it myself just yet.
All those anti-QoL things are just an inconvenience to me. I get it might help with immersion, so I don’t diss them, but most of those things sound like they can be worked around easily, just very time-consumingly. I think I saw some get fixed gameplay, where people died by flying to space? So you just build a space wall and you’re in vanilla with extra steps. And I hate doing the preps.
Way back in the 2012 maybe I collected every vanilla item, and since then I just enjoy fighting bosses. The rest is hard meh. Slapping extra HP is also just lame.
Calamity did everything correctly, specially the post-ML content, and Infernum changed bosses so well that passing them feels like a real achievement.
One of the hardest things in vanilla now is to accept that those bosses are so much more simple, but so are my options.
I get that completely lol. I’ve definitely fought bosses before that put me in the hundreds. Hell, I remember when Terraria 1.4 first came out with the “for the worthy” secret seed and I tried that out on master mode. I must have died well over 100 times to the brain of cthulhu in that seed, which is crazy because it’s usually one of the easiest bosses imo. For the first time in my life I had to set up a damn vicious mushroom farm because I was shredding through those spawners. And I was playing vanilla! The wall of flesh was equally challenging and annoying to get spawners for. I was using melee, and this was before the huge melee buff that came in 1.4.4.
Funny enough, my current playthrough is a bit easier than it should be thanks to the lag I mentioned. My options are either turn frame skip to subtle, and have my game move at like 66% of it’s normal speed (allowing me to react easier), or set it to on and watch as bosses use insane attacks without warning because the telegraph frames got skipped. Bit unfortunate, but I can’t really experience some bosses fully, and I can’t really do anything about it. That’s the main reason I’d recommend using Infernal Eclipse of Ragnarok over Homeward Ragnarok.
I will never forget even Yahron, much less Calamitas on Revengeance in 2020. Played ranger. But it literally took me a week of constant battles to beat Calamitas once. (After that, even with post-Calamitas equip and with duping, I still had trouble killing it.)
But Infernum Queen Slime? Lol, we beat it in team only thanks to respawn items. Infernum bosses are on the top level of crack, and I love it so much. Those battles are so much fun, yet so stressful. Also visually stunning.
Never tried any special vanilla seeds. Are they difficult compared to Infernum? Or if you once start owning Infernum, vanilla is a piece of cake?
Playing with lag sounds awful, and it’s sad it prevents the true experience. So thank you so much for your advice, much appreciated.
For The Worthy and Get Fixed Boi (which is just all the vanilla seeds including FTW combined) are both difficult in a different way from something like Infernum. While Infernum completely reworks boss fights, often feeling like a completely different fight all together, FTW is more like Vanilla+. Like, many of the bosses just attack faster and more often, summoning more minions and doing more damage. At most a boss might get a new attack or two, like skeletron summoning dark casters to shoot at you throughout the fight and the brain of cthulhu flipping you upside-down during its second phase. I should stress though, it’s not easy by any means. Dark casters interrupting your flow during an already sped-up and beefed-up skeletron fight is surprisingly difficult. It’s kinda similar to Infernum mode King Slime, where you need to dodge the slime, crystal, and ninja simultaneously by the third phase (though maybe not quite as hard).
Get Fixed Boi especially is a pretty interesting experience. Unlike most mods, it’s got a kinda anti-QoL vibe, making your life more difficult throughout the entire game rather than just during boss fights. Darkness kills you, bunnies explode, you spawn in the underworld, the entire surface is corrupted with spawn rates cranked up, the dungeon is underground, among other things. I’d recommend giving it a shot at some point.
I know Calamity has support for both seeds. It actually has support for FTW + Rev/Death Mode, and additional content for Legendary mode (i.e. Master + FTW) + Rev/Death. I don’t know if Infernum supports them, but I’d be willing to bet Legendary Death mode would be pretty similar in difficulty to Infernum, though I haven’t tried it myself just yet.
All those anti-QoL things are just an inconvenience to me. I get it might help with immersion, so I don’t diss them, but most of those things sound like they can be worked around easily, just very time-consumingly. I think I saw some get fixed gameplay, where people died by flying to space? So you just build a space wall and you’re in vanilla with extra steps. And I hate doing the preps.
Way back in the 2012 maybe I collected every vanilla item, and since then I just enjoy fighting bosses. The rest is hard meh. Slapping extra HP is also just lame.
Calamity did everything correctly, specially the post-ML content, and Infernum changed bosses so well that passing them feels like a real achievement.
One of the hardest things in vanilla now is to accept that those bosses are so much more simple, but so are my options.