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Vim has long since won the war. I say that as an emacs user who is familiar with using vim because it’s installed by default on the vast majority of computers I interact with nowadays
I don’t use Arch btw.
Ed is the standard and only option.
TECO is clearly the correct choice
Ed is kinda-sorta great-granddaddy vim.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_(software)
ed (pronounced as distinct letters, /ˌiːˈdiː/)[1] is a line editor for Unix and Unix-like operating systems. It was one of the first parts of the Unix operating system that was developed, in August 1969.
Dennis M. Ritchie produced what Doug McIlroy later described as the “definitive” ed,[5] and aspects of ed went on to influence ex, which in turn spawned vi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi_(text_editor)
Vim (“Vi IMproved”) has many additional features compared to vi, including (scriptable) syntax highlighting, mouse support, graphical versions, visual mode, many new editing commands and a large amount of extension in the area of ex commands.
I’ve never used qed, but it sounds like that might be considered even one step back:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_(software)
Many features of ed came from the qed text editor developed at Thompson’s alma mater University of California, Berkeley.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QED_(text_editor)
Initial release: 1967
I guess TECO — which I also have not used — would kinda-sorta be the emacs analog:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TECO_(text_editor)
TECO (/ˈtiːkoʊ/[1]), short for Text Editor & Corrector, [2] [3][4] is both a character-oriented text editor and a programming language,[5][6] that was developed in 1962 for use on Digital Equipment Corporation computers, and has since become available on PCs and Unix. Dan Murphy developed TECO while a student at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).
It was subsequently modified by many other people[7] and is a direct ancestor of Emacs, which was originally implemented in TECO macros.
EDIT: Actually…hmm. Now that I think of it, I might have briefly used TECO on a DEC VMS cluster. IIRC, I mostly used EVE, though.
Vim is bloatware atop Ed making it insanely memory hungry and nearly unusable.
(Send from an IBM PC with 256k memory running LFS)
EDITOR=shredtoo if you’re brave or having a rough day.Remember to put
#!/bin/rmat the top of every file, to teach people not to execute files they shouldn’t.
Please use “/usr/bin/env [command]”. Otherwise, it will not work on NixOS
rmdoesn’t work on NixOS?Then how do you do
rm -rf / --no-preserve-root?Not really cool to post commands like that without consideration for privileges for newcomers, make sure to use
sudofirst. /sNixOS has
rm. But it’s not under/bin. There is no/binin NixOS. The user’s programs are inside/run/current-system/sw/bin, and those are symlinks from files hidden in/nix/store.Running
rm -rf / --no-preserve-rootunder NixOS, will not nuke the entire system, since/nix/storeis mounted as read-only, and only remounted as rw when new applications are downloaded, or older unused ones are wiped.Does that mean it works if you happen to run it while a download is ongoing?
I default to vim because I want an editor that just works and doesn’t need a lot of customization. I have nothing against emacs or nano.
Freedom of religion is a fundamental human right. Evangelization should not be punished. I protest (:
I was laughing out loud until I read the part on VS Code or Google Docs to “avoid ideological tensions”.
Clearly Herve Beraud is a closed source advocate, total rage bait! /s
Notepad++
European Commision’s laptops run on Windows 11 and then they need to pay for AWS to do any kind of meanigful work… And then some devs still pick Windows to run on AWS anyway!
nano for lyfe! what’s the fine for a “class c user experience violation”?
Banishment to Windows.
That’s torture and a human rights violation!
eww, ok, I’ll switch to vim
You can still use nano. Just don’t make it the default for your distro or you’ll lose your Linux license.
ok, officer. thank you, officer. Am I free to go?
If you can figure out how to exit, sure
<esc>:wq!
Off you go, have a nanice day!
steals your escape key
Now, try to exit vim.@somerandomperson @madjo
Ctrl-c ZQ
to summarize the conclusions thus far, as is my secretary duty
amendments to the protocol of this EU directive are as follows in the first line of
stallingsamendments:TECO is to be legacy alternative to EMACS and all personell are to be provided paid leave for educational purposes.
ED is to be legacy alternative to VIM and all personell are to be provided paid leave for educational purposes.
up for further discussion: are ideologically united editors such as VILE (VI Like Emacs) middleground or offensive to both parties? is it right of marginalized editors to invoke a non-mono
polyculture clause: “will SAM or VIS be up for consideration?” asks [name redacted under GDPR]just run a logon script to alias both vim and emacs and nano for all your users.
No mention of ms edit? I feel this won’t last.
My boy nano getting a drive by. He always there for me when I need to quickly edit a conf file
Delete
nanoalready.Let’s make
microthe standard!!Why should micro be the standard over nano?
Because
nanohas unacceptable key combos, and no support for mouse.microhas sensible key combos, good syntax highlighting and supports mouse perfectly fine.Nano’s key combos are acceptable. Source: I accept them.
Nah,
ededis, in fact, in the POSIX standard.https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/
Shell & Utilities -> Utilities -> ed
In fact, it looks like
exandsed, both child editors ofed, are baked into the standard. Nopico-family editors.
Nice, an analognowhere I missed!
make the standard
code-insidersbut in vim mode
This “neutrality” is like giving equal voice to doctors and tobacco companies. They need to take the initiative for public health and declare the correct, ergonomic editor as international standard.
Yes, but only if it’s the editor I use /s
Of course. Why would you use the wrong editor?
Which is clearly…
The pen
The pen
Is that a neovim plugin?
It’s like giving equal voice to NASA, and to Barry who thinks the sky is a carpet painted by a god.
“This whole International Space Station idea is patently ridiculous, what’re they gonna do, hang it from the carpet?”
(with apologies to Dara O Briain)
Obviously Emacs with Evil mode… or Vim with Vimacs?
Vim with Vimacs?
Ah yes, the worst of both worlds.
Time to burn Europe. This injustice will not stand.
