Said by someone that’s not in their position. It’s like, “those shitty slaves in North Korea are not doing enough.” Yeah, we can’t outfight the military people.
I thought that was the whole idea with having guns, so you wouldn’t get oppressed by the government. So, now there is no reason for everyone to have guns?
But neither is there for Europe. We knew that the chemical weapons in Iraq were fake and we knew that there was no UN mandate for Syria and the one for Libya was stretched. We have known about Venezuela since the aircraft carrier was sent at the end of October. Now Greenland is closer to home, and we know about the social networks and the groomed politicians. What are we going to do to make a difference?
So, your projection is that Harris would have done the same as the Trump admin? Like a “Harris Tower Hotel” in Gaza City, with the involvement of Harris’s family members in the deal?
Even the Biden administration was putting pressure on Israel to stop. They should have forced them, but they didn’t. There was at least a disapproval of their actions.
Trump basically gave them the green light and said do it faster please.
Harris would not have stopped the genocide. There’s no genocide light. It’s either you’re complicit in genocide or not. Trump is objectively a horrible person and I would have never voted for him but that doesn’t make Harris not a genocide supporter.
At best, Harris would have been no better for the people of Palestine than trump. And trump is demonstrably worse for basically the entire rest of the world (pretty sure Harris wouldn’t be threatening war on Denmark/the EU, for example).
So… your lack of a vote (which is effectively a vote for trump when you math it out) did absolutely nothing for the people you claim to care about while actively hurting everyone else.
People have different values, and they approach voting differently. You vote based on utilitarian ethics, but there are other moral philosophies. And ultimately utilitarianism is a deeply flawed ethical system.
Learn to be a good citizen in a pluralistic democracy. Your way is not the only way. Learn some humility.
I’m worried by people whose values say that when presented with the trolley problem the correct thing to do is to criticise the system in which people get tied to the tracks instead of just pulling the lever and then dealing with the system.
I‘m not American so I can’t vote for either of them, nor have I ever been to the US. But I have family in places where we had the pleasure of dealing with Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden, and frankly, neither of them has done us any good to say it very mildly.
It just seems like you have no idea how the US government functions so maybe take a step back. The country is larger than your entire continent, burning down any city hall would barely even make news in DC
And if it did it would just get the national guard deployed in your city. And the city government wouldn’t be able to do anything to help, because their office burnt down…
They won’t. At least, not in significant enough numbers to matter. It’s easy to type that, but quite another thing if it’s your life and livelihood on the line.
Historically, revolutions don’t happen without someone pretty organised and powerful to arrange them, like the Jacobins. And even then they usually fail.
Yeah and that “nothing happened” was because the fucking President organized it and pardoned everyone. Once again, the already powerful tend to prop up revolutions. None of the powerful here will benefit from us having a revolution unless it didnt actually change anything. No one is coming to end this. Americans better band together and figure out what they can do with some string and a pack of matches.
It was on behalf of the President and his party, and it was never anywhere close to seriously threatening government power. A few individual politicians, maybe.
Hey, Americans, this is what happens when you stay silent.
Go burn down the city hall or something. Stop posting. Start doing.
But at least they saved Palestine. They did save Palestine, didn’t they…?
Who was supposed to save Palestinians? Genocide Kamala or Genocide Trump?
Yeah, right?? Kamala would have been soooo much worse!! /s, obviously.
And her unrealized gains tax over a Million would have destroyed the US Economy! We did save the economy, right? /s
Just because Trump is crazy that doesn’t make genocide support by not Trump okay suddenly. Get over it
There’s no hope for Americans and their black and white narrow minds.
Said by someone that’s not in their position. It’s like, “those shitty slaves in North Korea are not doing enough.” Yeah, we can’t outfight the military people.
I thought that was the whole idea with having guns, so you wouldn’t get oppressed by the government. So, now there is no reason for everyone to have guns?
That’s literally what has happened in like every regime before change. Standing up to the power in place.
I’m happy I don’t have to do that, but you must if you want change.
You can also start small with a national strike.
But neither is there for Europe. We knew that the chemical weapons in Iraq were fake and we knew that there was no UN mandate for Syria and the one for Libya was stretched. We have known about Venezuela since the aircraft carrier was sent at the end of October. Now Greenland is closer to home, and we know about the social networks and the groomed politicians. What are we going to do to make a difference?
Make a better species while we are still around, one that has a tendency to disobey unjust commands.
That’s nurture not nature. We would need a different culture.
O started swimming there but I wasn’t even halfway there when they had bombed the country, so I swam back.
We would have to do exactly what everyone fears doing.
Unfortunately “whatabout” is the only retort that many know.
So, your projection is that Harris would have done the same as the Trump admin? Like a “Harris Tower Hotel” in Gaza City, with the involvement of Harris’s family members in the deal?
Kamala’s Israel policy is just a less white trash version of Trump’s.
Even the Biden administration was putting pressure on Israel to stop. They should have forced them, but they didn’t. There was at least a disapproval of their actions.
Trump basically gave them the green light and said do it faster please.
Neither good, but one approach was better
Harris would not have stopped the genocide. There’s no genocide light. It’s either you’re complicit in genocide or not. Trump is objectively a horrible person and I would have never voted for him but that doesn’t make Harris not a genocide supporter.
I thought we were past this blue MAGA bullshit.
So… just to confirm:
At best, Harris would have been no better for the people of Palestine than trump. And trump is demonstrably worse for basically the entire rest of the world (pretty sure Harris wouldn’t be threatening war on Denmark/the EU, for example).
So… your lack of a vote (which is effectively a vote for trump when you math it out) did absolutely nothing for the people you claim to care about while actively hurting everyone else.
Good job owning the libs, I guess?
People have different values, and they approach voting differently. You vote based on utilitarian ethics, but there are other moral philosophies. And ultimately utilitarianism is a deeply flawed ethical system.
Learn to be a good citizen in a pluralistic democracy. Your way is not the only way. Learn some humility.
I’m worried by people whose values say that when presented with the trolley problem the correct thing to do is to criticise the system in which people get tied to the tracks instead of just pulling the lever and then dealing with the system.
I‘m not American so I can’t vote for either of them, nor have I ever been to the US. But I have family in places where we had the pleasure of dealing with Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden, and frankly, neither of them has done us any good to say it very mildly.
Ah. So you are just encouraging people who CAN vote to… hurt you and everyone else.
Heads up: If your homeboy offers you something to drink, avoid it. Probably full of novichok.
What exactly?
Yeah, smart. Burn down a city hall to stop the federal government. Makes total sense.
Nothing will ever make sense to fascism enablers.
You do you. Just keep that blaming game on point. That’s all you’ve ever known.
It just seems like you have no idea how the US government functions so maybe take a step back. The country is larger than your entire continent, burning down any city hall would barely even make news in DC
And if it did it would just get the national guard deployed in your city. And the city government wouldn’t be able to do anything to help, because their office burnt down…
They won’t. At least, not in significant enough numbers to matter. It’s easy to type that, but quite another thing if it’s your life and livelihood on the line.
Historically, revolutions don’t happen without someone pretty organised and powerful to arrange them, like the Jacobins. And even then they usually fail.
I mean, people set the capitol on fire 6 years ago today and nothing happened but some temporary charges and subsequent pardons.
5 years ago, and that’s because those seditionists were on the side of the seditionist government
Yeah and that “nothing happened” was because the fucking President organized it and pardoned everyone. Once again, the already powerful tend to prop up revolutions. None of the powerful here will benefit from us having a revolution unless it didnt actually change anything. No one is coming to end this. Americans better band together and figure out what they can do with some string and a pack of matches.
It was on behalf of the President and his party, and it was never anywhere close to seriously threatening government power. A few individual politicians, maybe.
I guess, what’s your point?
Jan 6 was a violent insurrection, but nobody set the capitol on fire.
My City hall turned Blue in November 2025, coming for the House Rep next.