During AMD's latest earnings call that covers the fourth quarter and full year of 2025, AMD chair and CEO Lisa Su gave a small update on Valve's Steam Machine.
To be honest, I expected RAM prices would push back the release date. But AMD would know more about than I would.
I would think the framework would be somewhere around twice the price per performance but we won’t know until release.
Seems like if you’re leaning framework a self build makes more sense. I don’t see the value proposition of a framework desktop if you’re technically literate enough to be on lemmy.
I am leaning to the framework over self built because I like the power efficiency and want to support a company that I believe in. Also I refuse to give NVIDIA any money even if its indirectly by purchasing a used gpu.
I love framework computers, but unless you’re working with LLMs and can leverage the high VRAM, you’re better off building your own desktop if you’re comfortable. The desktop represents a very specific niche, and the repairability of a traditional ITX desktop handedly beats that of the framework desktop.
The rabid techno-elitism and boycotting of anything that is in the same air space as some bad actors is completely counter-productive and paradoxically invites more bad actors to invade and take control. To bring up the old nazi bar analogy - you don’t leave the bar to the nazis, you kick them out. But instead what is happening is completely bass-ackwards - perfectly capable tools are being left to the bad actors and giving them a platform to take over.
Don’t leave the tools - instead embrace them, wield them against those who would happily do that against you. Build a strong userbase and drive nuts out until the bad actors have no power and no control.
You think we just left the enigma machine to the nazis and said “ew”? You think the resistance just left MP40s on the ground and didn’t wield them against their oppressors? That’s no path to survival.
In a time when the world is burning up and drowning in waste, Framework actually is doing something good for sustainability and repairability; but instead of focusing on dozens of actual sponsorships that contribute to actual good, some people rabidly focus on the one asshole and try to change the narrative and erase any goodwill. Omarchy isn’t even listed on the sponsorship list - AFAIK FW sent him one machine and that’s it. We don’t have the luxury to turn our nose and go somewhere else - this is our bar, fight for it and stop encouraging good patrons from leaving. Because the silence left behind will be happily filled with nazi rhetoric.
To bring up the old nazi bar analogy - you don’t leave the bar to the nazis, you kick them out. But instead what is happening is completely bass-ackwards
Except they’re not kicking these assholes out. Framework are giving them free advertising and even sponsorship money.
Framework claims to be making a “big tent”, but if you do that you need to silently tolerate the shitty actors, not actively support them unprompted
I’m really dubitating between a steam machine or a framework desktop, which will he a bit more money but more powerful.
I would think the framework would be somewhere around twice the price per performance but we won’t know until release.
Seems like if you’re leaning framework a self build makes more sense. I don’t see the value proposition of a framework desktop if you’re technically literate enough to be on lemmy.
I am leaning to the framework over self built because I like the power efficiency and want to support a company that I believe in. Also I refuse to give NVIDIA any money even if its indirectly by purchasing a used gpu.
Just remember the framework doesn’t have a pcie slot long enough for a graphics upgrade down the road, it’s only 4.0x4
It’s not a particular support worthy company IMO https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/14/framework_linux_controversy/
If you want the devices for technical reasons, sure, but from moral standpoint they aren’t better than the next tech company.
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AMD and Intel offer quite nice GPUs.
I recently purchased a Radeon RX 9060 XT with 16 GB RAM. It does the job.
I love framework computers, but unless you’re working with LLMs and can leverage the high VRAM, you’re better off building your own desktop if you’re comfortable. The desktop represents a very specific niche, and the repairability of a traditional ITX desktop handedly beats that of the framework desktop.
If you don’t have a strong preference, at least chose the one which will have more support. Choose the Gabe Cube
Apparently Framework have been sponsoring some projects run by alt-right grifters lately fyi
Wha for link?
Here’s the comment/thread where I learned about it: https://programming.dev/comment/21880176
Framework has done several shoutouts to Omarchy and DHH in official marketing material and is actively sponsoring HYPRLAND with money
Umh, I’m out of the loop, what’s wrong with hyprland?
Evidence?
Here’s the comment/thread where I learned about it: https://programming.dev/comment/21880176
Framework has done several shoutouts to Omarchy and DHH in official marketing material and is actively sponsoring HYPRLAND with money
Please don’t spread misinformation with no context.
Here’s the comment/thread where I learned about it: https://programming.dev/comment/21880176
Framework has done several shoutouts to Omarchy and DHH in official marketing material and is actively sponsoring HYPRLAND with money
He’s referring to this: https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986
tl;dr Framework is sponsoring Omarchy, created by DHH, who is a right-wing conspiracy nut. Framework says “Yup, we want to create a big tent.”
https://frame.work/gb/en/blog/framework-sponsorships show me the sponsorship.
The rabid techno-elitism and boycotting of anything that is in the same air space as some bad actors is completely counter-productive and paradoxically invites more bad actors to invade and take control. To bring up the old nazi bar analogy - you don’t leave the bar to the nazis, you kick them out. But instead what is happening is completely bass-ackwards - perfectly capable tools are being left to the bad actors and giving them a platform to take over.
Don’t leave the tools - instead embrace them, wield them against those who would happily do that against you. Build a strong userbase and drive nuts out until the bad actors have no power and no control. You think we just left the enigma machine to the nazis and said “ew”? You think the resistance just left MP40s on the ground and didn’t wield them against their oppressors? That’s no path to survival.
In a time when the world is burning up and drowning in waste, Framework actually is doing something good for sustainability and repairability; but instead of focusing on dozens of actual sponsorships that contribute to actual good, some people rabidly focus on the one asshole and try to change the narrative and erase any goodwill. Omarchy isn’t even listed on the sponsorship list - AFAIK FW sent him one machine and that’s it. We don’t have the luxury to turn our nose and go somewhere else - this is our bar, fight for it and stop encouraging good patrons from leaving. Because the silence left behind will be happily filled with nazi rhetoric.
Except they’re not kicking these assholes out. Framework are giving them free advertising and even sponsorship money.
Framework claims to be making a “big tent”, but if you do that you need to silently tolerate the shitty actors, not actively support them unprompted
I didn’t say anything about supporting them. The hysteria is unwarranted
You’re clearly intentionally arguing in bad faith if this is your response.
Ta ta, you’re not worth bothering with anymore. Go lie to someone else