• Pip@feddit.org
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    10 days ago

    This is a fascinating topic because it shows the power of stereotypes. A majority of the general population has supported a general speed limit for decades. But the anti-limit minority is very vocal and has managed to present their preference as a matter of national identity.

    And as fellow Europeans we then reinforce such stereotypes about Germans.

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      10 days ago

      And I don’t know why they care. Despite the stereotypes, Germans become allergic to rules as soon as they have any kind of wheels under them, and in my experience, the police thinks the traffic rules are a thing that happens to pedestrians and cyclists.

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      9 days ago

      Liar

      A majority of the general population has supported a general speed limit for decades

      ADAC graph in article clearly shows that this is only the case for the last 4 years by a margin of ~5%

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        9 days ago

        The ADAC members do not represent the general population… The survey was among ADAC members (a motorist organization).

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          9 days ago

          The ADAC is certainly representative, because that’s just people using cars. People that do not use cars and are not affected by a speed limit (e.g. people living in larger cities) are irrelevant.

          Also you did 0 research and consolidated 0 resources for your claims:

          https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zulässige_Höchstgeschwindigkeit_im_Straßenverkehr_(Deutschland)#Umfragen_und_Verbände

          There is a very slight majority in the recent years depending on the height of the limit. But certainly not for decades…

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            9 days ago

            ADAC members are people who joined the motorist organization, it’s not just people driving cars.

            If you think that the opinion of the general population does not matter, fine. But the ADAC members still do not represent the general population.

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      10 days ago

      I think this issue is exactly the same as many others that are, in principle, supported by an overwhelming majority: it is the influence of lobbying that makes it possible for the will of the people to be ignored. While this phrase is widely used, it doesn’t quite capture the essence of the matter - it is simply corruption.