I just found out about fish shell a few moments ago. I switched Konsole on KDE to use it instead of bash and am impressed so far. Might install it on the Pihole eventually. Good stuff, just wanted to share. :)

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      To get most of the good features of fish in zsh you have to install a bunch of plugins. And it’s way slower than fish as well. I used zsh for like 6 years and when I switched to fish (probably in 2018 or 19) I’ve never gone back. Fish is just so much better.

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        And it’s way slower than zsh as well.

        Did you intend to write this part like this?

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          No I’m really tired and I think I backspaced and fished it up. OK I’m leaving that autocorrect cause it’s funny

          Edit: updated and fixed to say “it’s way slower than fish”

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          I had the opposite from you, zsh slow even with a couple plugins (or no plugins). Like, I could see a delay with my naked eye between opening the terminal emulator and the prompt appearing. Not with bash or fish though. 👌

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          3 months ago

          How many plugins do you have? To get the same features that fish has I was seeing multi second loading times with zsh with every plugin system I tried.

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        since I switched to NixOS I’m finding this out now. Prior to this every Distro I was on I used zsh/oh my zsh because I’m a dummy and need the autosuggestions, autocomplete, syntax highlighting etc and it was quick, no issues.

        Now that i’m on Nix zsh is slow to get to a prompt. logging in via tty takes 2-5 seconds to hit a prompt, in a terminal about the same. maybe I set up my nix config wrong, I don’t know. I’m only loading those three pluggins and I’ve boiled it down to the autosuggestions and or autocomplete.

        It might just be a conflict with NixOS’ auto suggestsions/complete thing (likely is) but if Fish or Nushell has the same 3 features I need because, again, i’m a dummy then I’d happily switch.

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      3 months ago

      “zimfw”

      Look at what they need to mimic even a fraction of [fish’s] power ☝️

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        Idk, it could be argued that the ability to add exactly what features you want via plugins might make the shell more minimal and faster. Although most people don’t know what they want and just install everything.

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          I’d rather have the official shell code add the features I want rather than have to maintain a list of the plugins written by god knows who, that add the functionality I want. Just my own gut feeling, you could call it.