He might have described why a chunk of guys pick up learning how to play the guitar.
Male Loneliness Epidemic is mostly just broke teenagers trapped in the suburbs who haven’t figured out their girl peers are just as lonely, broke, and horny as they are.
As soon as they crack the code, they’re at it like jackrabbits
What makes a man do anything now days lol
Anon can’t fathom being interested in people if the reason is not sexual.
1 way streamer ‘relationships’ feel super weird and impersonal to me. It’s like there’s some kind of fantasy the streamer is personally invested in, and interested in, you, too.
Like maybe I’d watch a bit out of curiosity, like watching a sports team or something. But become paying ‘patron’ and watch them all the time?
To me it’s just entertainment, not a relationship. But I’m starting to wonder if I’m the weird one. I often just watch the archives too, not even live.
I find some of them consistently amusing so I keep watching. At some point I think that it’s only fair to contribute monetarily to help incentivize them to keep producing the entertainment I like.
To me it’s just entertainment, not a relationship.
I suppose I didn’t mean to overgeneralize, this may why most watch streamers.
It seems more like a relationship to many, especially those that throw big bucks at these streamers, and basically live in the comment sections saying weird things.
I don’t understand watching any video game streams. It just makes me want to play video games myself, why would I spoil video games by watching someone else play it?
I used to hang out with friends in college, and I’d do homework in the same room while they’d play videogames (or vice-versa). Throwing a streamer on while I’m working gives the same vibe.
It’s literally just reality TV. Nothing strange about it. It’s nice to watch someone play a game I like while I’m eating or something.
I will say I don’t like watching female streamers because through no fault of their own (sometimes it is their fault) they are non stop sexualized and either make it their personality to be toxic towards men or don’t get into the content because men are constantly bothering them. Also thirst trap streamers are the worst.
I’ve just recently gotten into this. Gotta find someone with good commentary skills, and doesn’t have an annoying voice.
Also, speedrunners aren’t who I thought they’d be, was expecting a bunch of nerds cracked out on adderall. I don’t seek out the genre, but the ones I’ve stumbled across accidentally are older, with a technical background and do well-spoken commentary. Makes it much more interesting when they can articulate what they’re doing as they’re doing it.
This, for real. I love people who like think their way their way through, or add thoughtful commentary. They’re the interesting people who don’t even need prodding with remarks from chat; thoughtful, chatty people make good background TV for me.
I immediately close streams where they play their own music or refuse to fix their audio issues.
I don’t understand watching any video game streams. It just makes me want to play video games myself, why would I spoil video games by watching someone else play it?
I don’t understand watching any football streams. It just makes me want to play football myself, why would I spoil the fun of playing by watching someone else play it?
I don’t watch sports either. That said, that’s not a bad point, I suppose if I got into it I theoretically could watch and enjoy competitive games. Not the same as streamers playing singleplayer games though.
Actually though. I can’t bear football and I’d still rather kick a ball around than sit and watch it
background noise.
i put it on while i work for games i’ve already played or would never play
There are some games I can’t “git gud” at but I enjoy seeing the gameplay, so I watch edited playthroughs.
I don’t watch streams much, for a multitude of reasons.
Here in Brazil, a lot of kids watch streamers because their families can’t afford any gaming devices :(
I have limited time, watching certain gaming channels lets me know about games I might be interested in.
Then I can wishlist them, purchase them when they’re on sale, and never find the time to play them.
I also have limited skills. Watching certain gaming channels lets me experience games I wouldn’t be able to progress in if I played them myself.
Also, some are entertaining because of the way the person plays. Watching Jon forget about his damn blunderbuss cavalry until they are again slaughtered to the last man amuses me.
I don’t play for an audience, so I can constantly pause and micromanage the game, and therefore don’t tend to make these amusing mistakes. I’m also not as good as most professionals. Therefore watching certain professionals play certain games can be more entertaining than playing them myself.
Finally, there’s also the reaction factor, same as with film or TV or music reactions. Watching someone experience that surprise or shock for the first time triggers the mirror neuron, and is the closest I can get to experiencing it myself for the first time again.
The appeal isn’t in the games themselves, it’s in the personality playing them.
I got pretty into watching twitch a couple years back, and yep, the streamer and community are what made my favourite streams. I mostly watched streams for one or two games I knew, but would watch others because it was one of the streamers I liked
made for a nice change from podcasts or music
I found out that some female streaming voices give me some asmr. And overall can be more pleasant to hear. And less prone to have “youtube accent”. I take that as a win.
I don’t watch Twitch but the youngin’s in my family do.
Female streamers don’t have that fake obnoxious rage yell/scream the guys do.
Last streamer I watched by choice was Skyrim Grandma BTW.
Female streamers don’t have that fake obnoxious rage yell/scream the guys do.
Eh, guys with the fake rage scream are about as common as the ladies who see Twitch as essentially a starter camsite/way to advertise their OF and are trading on boobs more than anything else. There absolutely are streamers on Twitch that are exactly what OP suggests, but they’re far from a majority and probably not the one used in the picture.
The only “streaming” I can watch are Game Grumps, but I get that’s not live, and it’s by and for a completely different demographic.
I’ve tried, but I find a lot of Twitch play-throughs to be low-stimulation, low-information, and low-entertainment. I think they’re better suited to a dual-screen kind of situation, but then I’d rather be doing far more engaging things like playing games myself.
I miss when GameGrumps wasn’t so corporate
I miss it too. If I had to guess, Arin sees a day with wall-to-wall recording sessions and meetings, and misses those chaotic early days.
I look at it this way: it’s a lot less home-grown now that it’s grown up. In exchange, they employ people, make Starbomb tours actually possible, and fund wildly off-the-wall games. Along the way, Dan was propelled into modest stardom, a lot of other folks from their camp got a boost for their endeavors, and they got to make some memorable moments with a few celebs. They’re not at “Liquid Game Grumps” levels yet, but it’s amazing to watch unfold. Maybe that’s worth it.
Completely agree. Just missing the good old days of being able to make whatever joke/comment they found funny, advertisers be damned
You see, the steamer depicted may not be the exact subject matter they’re referring to. They might have just googled female streamers, or loaded up Twitch and looked for the first girl on camera and snapped a screen shot.
With all that being said, I understand the appeal of wanting to watch something that you think is pretty. Hell, that’s the entire reason I played cyberpunk as a female character despite being very cis, and male.
For 90% of game play my gender doesn’t matter. Until cutscenes where I get to watch my avatar interacting with others.
Outside of cutscenes, I’m looking first person, so what difference does it make?
With all that being said, I understand the appeal of wanting to watch something that you think is pretty. Hell, that’s the entire reason I played cyberpunk as a female character despite being very cis, and male.
2077’s female VA is incredible. She sounds so much more ‘real’ than clips of the male VA I heard, and the bit of rasp is utterly perfect for the setting.
Same with Kassandra, Femshep, and (I think) FemRyder.
Basically I’ve been trained into assuming the female VA is going to deliver a better performance.
Obviously women have long hair, and that can get in the way, making it harder to see. You don’t want hair in your face when you got to fit that piece through the side precisely, making a last second rotation to fit lest you end up with a hole on your stack
Oh, and don’t forget that video game women tend to have worse upper body strength than video game men so if you’re intending to vault, climb and break things you should be a dude /s
Humanity on the balance seems to like to act shocked and even disgusted when anything like this and countless other similar scenarios occur. Often they ask why but they know why. Procreation. So much of our behaviour has undertones of procreation whether we acknowledge this or not. I find those who acknowledge deal with the less ethical parts of procreation much better than those constantly in denial.
You have the energy of someone who refers to women as “females”.
You “picked up” on that? Uhmm…you definitely did not.
I understand greentexts are misogynistic by nature, but wtf is wrong with this entire fucking website that this shit is what pops up first. The entire “joke” hinges on the idea that that woman’s entire worth is tied into being pretty. This is not even casual sexism, that’s ranked competitive sexism.
Also going by the comments some advanced morons here seem to unironically think that is actually how it works. Per twitch’s own leaked financials pokimane did not make more money than her male counterparts (who no-one ever accused of abusing their pretty privilege). But she’s a woman so of course her merit has to be scrutinized and her success has to be attributed to men. I suppose the idea that she has a large female audience has never even crossed the minds of the quadruple-chinned gremlins who upvote this garbage.
You realize that’s how the world works?
Men or women, people are primarily judged for their physical attraction.
I’ve never had anyone suggest the success I had in life was in any way related to someone wanting my dick in them no.
You’re making it sound like this post is discussing pretty privilege. It’s not. It’s making a crass, misogynistic “joke” which hinges on the false implication that a woman is doing sex work for her success. But you already knew that and are just pretending otherwise. And if you think that misogyny is acceptable because it’s “how the world works”, I would not-so-kindly ask you to fuck right back off to 4chan or the fox news comment section or wherever else you incels congregate these days.
I think that at least 7 people didn’t understand what you were trying to say.
I did. Well said. I can’t see any problems with your argument.
Though, I think that maybe the green text was more about female streamers in general, not just the one that’s depicted.
Whichever. Be well.
The entire “joke” hinges on the idea that that woman’s entire worth is tied into being pretty.
Uhh no, the joke is that a lot of men see women as objects and will watch her streams solely on the fact that she is a woman that they desire to bang. But yea, no matter what lens you look at it, it’s patriarchy all the way down. I think watching and developing parasocial relationships with streamers, male or female, is pretty fuckin weird anyway.
I think watching and developing parasocial relationships with streamers, male or female, is pretty fuckin weird anyway.
It is weird in an understanble way. Homo sapiens is a pack animal. For most of our 300k years of history, we survived by forming tribes and being connected to each other. This is why rejection sucks at any context, be it romanic or employment or friendship.
Today, we are more alone and isolated than any time in history. It’s understandable some lonely people are desperate enough to hang onto some simulacrum of connection.
That’s a very charitable interpretation. Anon is a literal incel, he made a sexist joke, and I really don’t think he (or you) has ever watched one of pokimane’s streams because they’re aggressively non-sexual. There are plenty of actual sex workers on twitch if that’s your thing.
Has pokimane had her share of weirdos over the years? Sure, but it’s really not that many people in absolute numbers and spreading naked incel propaganda is really fucking icky to me. Incel jokes aren’t okay even if it’s “humor”. It normalizes this extreme misogyny, even if you say “it’s okay we’re laughing at anon”.
It is also wild how some people here think everything you do in life is for the soul purpose of “procreation.” Like there is nothing more to life than the shallowness of sex for some people.
I think you’re missing some cultural context where 80% of twitch streams by women are just softcore porn. It became much more diverse and acceptable now but soft sex workers were huge on Twitch without even doing much of actual sex work.
I have been on twitch before sex workers even got a foot in the door. If you think that’s what “80%” of twitch is about then you either don’t watch or are telling on yourself.
Anyway whatever you think of sex work is literally irrelevant to the conversation. The woman pictured is not a sex worker and implying that she is for the sake of an incel joke because “she’s pretty, that’s close enough to sex work for me” is misogyny and you need to take a long hard look at yourself.
I mean yeah but pokimane isn’t one. Also I’d really hesitate to go anywhere near as high as 80%
Lot of para social interaction in those twitch chats. You can see how easy it would he to go from “I’m watching this because I fancy the streamer” to something unhealthy.
Testosterone is a hell of a drug
so is estrogen
Both should be available in vending machines :3
Hell yeah
Wait, are you implying that I’m sexually attracted to Josh from Let’s game it out!?
As someone that works in software, what he does to turn running code inside out, is kinda sexy. The guy is like a bloodhound for bugs and poorly-built software.
Game developers: Yeah, buy our game and play it however you want. It’s all for fun!
Josh: ::proceeds to out-QA the publisher’s QA department, breaking the game in the most egregious ways imaginable::
Game developers: No, not like that!
Speedrunners:: ::furious note-taking sounds::
Who wouldn’t be?
Ugh have you seen what he can do with some wood?! Swoon
And the guy can keep going for multiple hours at a time
I’m sure horniness is a factor, but there is also the aesthetic allure of the adorable. Like I can look at cat pics for hours. Doesn’t mean cats make me hot.
but there is also the aesthetic allure of the adorable
yep
i think it’s like this:
men walk around aimlessly until they find something they like (woman). that calms them down and they stop wandering around. that’s the “appeal of the adorable” or sth.
Sexual attraction and frustration, sure. Also loneliness, loss of community, loss of purpose, loss of meaning.
Maybe not every guy who watches her is like that, but some definitely are. I would especially be concerned for those who watch her consistently and donate large amounts of money to her. But I feel the same way about anyone who watches a lot of streamers and donates a lot of money (relative to their own income of course).
Parasocial relationships are a deeply concerning development.
Parasocial relationships are a deeply concerning development.
I agree. I’m not sure how anyone who has a healthy sense of self-respect can develop this sort of relationship, tbh. Even wading into the sometimes toxic peergroup of fandoms is better, because at least you’re communicating back and forth rather than just imbibing this quasi-social runoff that’s not even directed towards you as a person.
+1.
I was failing to put all this to words because the phenomenon is so weird and artificial.
Isn’t that Pokimane? She’s ranked in League. Cute women can do great things. If you sexualize it maybe you’re a creep. Go watch her play.
I loved watching her play Among Us because she was so damn good at it.
What does ‘ranked’ mean? Doesn’t basically every player have a rank?
Not really, you can play league entirely unranked though the matchmaking will still try to put you in similar skill matches. So you will get an ELO/MMR but that’s not a rank anyone sees.
And non-cute women can do great things. Watch people play who entertain you, and if they’re attractive, that’s cool too.
I have no sexual attraction to the many gamers I watch stream. I love John Wolfe and his gaming is just so entertaining. I will listen in the background and watch off and on. I get to experience games I have no time or energy to play still engage in the storylines and also have some background noise. It’s a win win win. It’s not always about bewbs.
So u never wanted to have Zero Master’s Doom babies?
Somebody wanted Decino’s sprog. Pumpkin Junior even got to play on stream this year.
Lots of kids played Doom II at far too early an age, but seven months is pushing it.
