Yep he’s one of those culture warrior types. Honestly surprised he got Andy Weir on as I was under the impression he was relatively small potatoes in that space.

The way I see it, we have enough going on elsewhere in this timeline where I’m willing to settle on this compromise 😅

EDIT: Did not realize WHAT podcast he was on…

Seems he was exaggerating for a joke and basically saying that he was too dumb to grasp the political metaphors in Trek.

Crisis averted!

Science fiction often works best when they don’t hang a giant lantern on what the lesson to be learned is.

Probably not the best franchise to be saying that about…

A lot of big names here!

Got it, you’re saying you are happy to see the inclusion of a non-binary character, just upset that it wasn’t communicated a few episodes earlier?

Huh? How is Stamets supposed to know if nobody tells him?

Where is it reflected in canon that Adira was “afraid” to come out, keeping their gender a “secret”, or otherwise had to “work up courage”?

Again, just a single line of dialogue or anything from the show that illustrates that the topic was covered more than that scene I linked to in my initial comment.

Nothing from the show itself? A transcript or youtube clip?

You introduced the term “forced inclusion”. What does that term mean? What makes it different from regular inclusion?

I don’t believe any of this is supported by what we saw on screen. Do you have evidence to support these claims? Even just a single line of dialogue for each claim would be helpful.

…this you?

What does “forced inclusion” mean? What makes it different from regular inclusion?

Your examples provided made no mention of “forced inclusion” or what makes it different from regular inclusion.

Your two examples didn’t explain what “forced inclusion” means and what makes it different from regular inclusion.

It is exactly that. Same with the meltdowns over Adira.

Your explanation didn’t explain what “forced inclusion” means and what makes it different from regular inclusion. Maybe you could give an example of each from Star Trek?

For instance, the script may be as blunt as a character saying “Wow, I can’t believe you made it this far despite being a [marginalized out-group]

Ok makes sense but did SFA do that? If so, when?

yeah sure so im curious to know what “forced inclusion” means and how we’re supposed to tell it apart from regular inclusion.

I saw that but I didn’t see anything about what makes inclusion “forced” in one series but not in another.

Lol “muddy” about sums it up