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  • To add to what the other commenter said;

    You have to understand that “obsolete” is much more of a recent understanding culturally. In the 80s it was still far more common to see appliances as things you bought for life and to see electronics like a television, computer, hi-fi, etc. as appliances.

    The oversaturation came not just from a plethora of games but also from a severe lack of quality control and from Atari and other companies rapidly releasing new consoles, that weren’t exactly upgrades to the previous consoles, to a market that wasn’t interested in replacing the system and games they just bought while dumping support for the previous console. Atari is most guilty of this and an attempt to reduce inventory and increase price led to the now famous ET carts buried in the desert story you may have heard about.

    By the time Nintendo was ready to release the NES in North America they did so through toy stores and marketed it as a toy and not a computer for games (one example of this is the board inside the cart only takes up about 1/3rd the space, they made them bigger for kids to handle in NA compared to the Japanese version called the Famicom). As well, they had extremely strict quality control guidelines with things like the Licensed by Nintendo seal appearing on approved games and accessories, and bans on retailers that sold unlicensed games. It took a couple years but this approach paid off. They also didn’t drop the NES when the SNES was released with the last official NES game (Wario’s Woods, also the only NES game to get an ESRB rating IIRC) coming almost 5 years after the SNES came out.













  • I wouldn’t go quite that far but yeah, in my view there have only been a handful of main paradigm shifting changes; Language, fire, tools, husbandry, agriculture, metallurgy, electricity.

    The primary separation between humans and pretty much everything else on earth is the passing of knowledge from generation to generation so if I had to pick the innovation I would probably pick language.


  • I’m not sure if we are talking past each other this point or what, but take the Internet since you mentioned it;

    Let’s compare to transistors for instance. You could have (and did have) the internet without transistors and you could have transistors without the internet. Nobody would argue that either are not massively impactful inventions but neither would exist without electricity. Electricity is the paradigm shifting breakthrough. In the same way neither cannons nor guns were the breakthrough themselves.

    …but the pace of iterations seems to be slowing down.

    I thought that was the whole conversation we were having. My main point was not only that innovation is slowing down but that we should expect it to slow based on the trajectory of previous paradigm shifting breakthroughs.


  • … all building on what came before.

    That was my point though. Metallurgy gave way to cannons and guns but we don’t have a “cannons and guns” age. Everything is iterative but occasionally we have something come along that changes everything and starts the iterations anew. But that has never continued after, just been followed by more iteration.

    Also, it took over 1000 years to get from the first steam experiments to a useful engine.


  • Isn’t it though? Each age has had its technological advance that defines that age. But at no time did the next age come immediately. It was always reasonable to assume that after electricity there would be yet another lull before the next paradigm shifting innovation. It seems to me that the great lie of capitalism has been convincing people that every new product is that next great innovation.