Every single “evidence” I’ve ever seen of this genocide ended up as hoax (remember the meat truck?), so I think it’s pretty safe to say it isn’t a thing.
I trust the OIC more than I trust any Western liberal on this. The same liberals who more often than not support Israel.
By the way, you can GO TO XINJIANG as a tourist. You can talk to the people there. You can experience their culture for yourself. How’s the Freedom Floatila doing in comparison?
Hell, go on RedNote, an explicitly PRC centric app with state control and cEnSoRsHiP and you’ll see Uyghurs in and outside Xinjiang proudly sharing their culture. Wonder how many Palestinians are allowed on Israeli social media.
Also, Uyghurs can, get this, leave the country that’s “genociding” them and many do every year for the Haj pilgrimage. Can Palestinians do the same? Uyghurs can also, get this, go back to the same home and possessions they had before they left without worrying about an Israeli or Han Chinese family moving in while they were gone.
Also also, look up “minority status” in China and how mixed race Han-Uyghur people usually identify with their Uyghur heritage on official papers because it opens up more social support programs like scholarships. They (and every other minority) were also automatically exempt from the One Child Policy which is a pretty stupid move if they’re trying to get rid of them. You literally get more perks from the government if you’re not Han, and this is supported by both the majority and minority ethnicities in China. What does Palestinian status in Israel get you again, I forget.
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No, China is not commiting genocide. The best and most comprehensive resource I have seen so far is Qiao Collective’s Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation. Qiao Collective is explicitly pro-PRC, but this is an extremely comprehensive write-up of the entire background of the events, the timeline of reports, and real and fake claims.
I also recommend reading the UN report and China’s response to it. These are the most relevant accusations and responses without delving into straight up fantasy like Adrian Zenz, professional propagandist for the Victims of Communism Foundation, does.
Tourists do go to Xinjiang all the time as well. You can watch videos like this one on YouTube, though it obviously isn’t going to be a comprehensive view of a complex situation like this. Even with all of the real complexities, though, nothing material measures up to claims of genocide.
https://www.globalr2p.org/countries/china/
While the OHCHR assessment (Aug 31, 2022) does not indicate genocide, its authors are being pedantic. The findings you cited indicate crimes against humanity including reproductive-rights abuses. (click “UN report and China’s response to it” then scroll to the bottom to download the PDF) They might not be lining them up in the streets and shooting them, but they ARE trying to exterminate them, and treat them as less than human in the process. Whether the report authors use the word “genocide” is immaterial.
Read the report yourself, you’ll see that what’s happening is unchecked criminal, inhumane activity directed at the Uyghur population and other predominantly Muslim ethnic minority communities in Xinjiang.
the OHCHR assessment (Aug 31, 2022) does not indicate genocide
Great, done, stop typing. Everything else is just blatant Motte and Baillie
So your argument is “they are just dehumanizing and trying to exterminate a group of people, and I’m chill with that”? A bold position.
That is not something anyone here has said, dumbass
Seems that way. Person 2 above said “it’s not x but it is y”, person above said “you can stop at it’s not x” implying to me they are fine with “but it is y”. What’s wrong with that inference?
implying
No
I have seen far too many dead Palestinians and zero dead Uyghurs
You have to know that’s a terrible argument, right?
No actually the complete absence of evidence for the uighur genocide compared to the overwhelming body of evidence for the palestinian genocide makes for an extremely strong argument that the former is fictional
So evidence is useless. Is that what you are saying?
I’m not repeating this conversation with someone who is as openly aggressive as you out of the gate. Read the rest of this comment chain.
I mean genocide doesnt concern buildings. There is a war in Gaza and not in Xinjiang. And there is many stages in Genocide. Palestinians are being killed nonindustrially and being displaced. Advanced, but not maxed-out genocide. Claims about Xinjiang say they are being forcefully sterilzed, and cultural leaders are being detained and tortured. I believe victims first and foremost.
You owe it to yourself to actually listen to the Uyghur people in Xinjiang, rather than what western news outlets and propagandists like Adrian Zenz espouse.
