Software and games.
No matter some people claims, there are always software/games that simply won’t run on Linux or no alternative available.
The newer updates to Wine are making that less relevant.
I only play competitive online. Kernel anti-cheat does not work on Linux.
That first sentence is so greasy
It’s a nice outlet for my competitive nature. I get close to zero enjoyment from single player games or pve.
Kernel anti-cheat does not work on Linux
And hopefully never will.
Please keep the spyware on the spyware operating system.
I’ve been a Linux user nearly exclusively) for over 20 years, I still keep an iPad and a windows desktop around for government stuff because the their apps and websites don’t work on my hardened systems (sus) or through TOR (less sus).
Then the gaming community will never move to Linux. Easy as that.
The competitive online gaming community is not the gaming community.
Wrong, but it’s ok if you think that.
I think you could add
“, but it is a part of that community”.
And you get the idea of what is being said.
I can play SF6 and Dota2 on Linux. Are those not competitive? If I’m able to play these games free of cheaters on Linux, what’s stopping any other company from allowing me to play my games there? Guess what, games with kernel-level anti-cheat still have cheaters even when they universally block Linux from playing at all. Will allowing the OS with ~3% market share (specifically the subset of that 3% that will even be playing that game) make the cheater population skyrocket? I know your point is that you simply won’t switch if you can’t use/play what you want, but you’re complaining about an instance where the only thing preventing you from doing that is the corporation who makes the product, and has nothing to do with Linux itself.
Competitive online gaming is a very small niche of the gaming community.
I beg to differ. Otherwise there would already have been an exodus to linux
People are on Windows because of inertia.
If you look at just PC gaming, Steam charts show that the big competitive kernel-level AC titles are way down, the biggest one is the newest Rainbow 6, with 80k players of the 36 million people active on Steam right now, 10 million being in-game. Funny thing is, the biggest Steam title is indeed a competitive online shooter, CS2, but it runs fine on Linux.
If it was competitive gaming that was the only reason people aren’t on Linux, most other segments would have seen a mass migration already. Competitive games can’t explain why 95%+ of the community is not on Linux.
I’m on Windows because the games i want to play doesn’t work on linux. Simple as that.
I know. What I’m saying is that your experience isn’t universal.
Kernel anti-cheat won’t work on windows soon anyways
Ok, I’ll bite.
How come?
After the whole crowd strike debacle Microsoft is trying to remove most things from the kernel into user land, including anti-cheat. If this will actually makes wine possible for those games is still up for debate but either way kernel-level anti-cheat seems to be on the way out.
https://pureinfotech.com/microsoft-removes-antivirus-windows-kernel/
“Less relevant”. Still not solution to every single software.
My friend wants to move to Linux, but he stops as there’s no any software equivalent that able to do webtoon-format comics.
Krita is not. Even Krita dev is recognizing that it does not its capabilities yet and still planning to add the feature.
Using WIne? He tried it, and it crashes unpredictably.
Did you know there’s Linux software that doesn’t run on windows too?
There’s always something, and it’s an easy excuse. How many people using that excuse actually have one of those few missing pieces blocking them?
And frankly, it’s so easy to dual boot at this point. I do get it, I have to hang on to windows to use fusion360, at least for certain projects.
I’ll be damned if I’m going to waste my time and patience on windows for anything I can avoid though.
Read my comment again. “…no alternative available”
Believe me, there are a lot of users that their software needed for their job only works on Windows. It’s not even some Adobe, Office, or generic software that we often hear. These software is hyperly specific that you will only know if you do the job.
Moving to Linux without any actual software equivalent is basically asking them to abandon their jobs.
Read my comment again. “Dual booting is so easy now…”
Yeah I covered that issue pretty directly.
My friend recently switched and I almost lost him from him desperately wanting to use Ableton. He switched to LMMS though and seems to have found more positive than negative from switching now.
Edit addition: If someone near me wants to switch then I’ll help them, I’ll even recommend it to them, but I’ll also let them know what things won’t work and what things would need to be switched when they do so.
Of course none of that will stop me from getting a little smile when a Windows user complains about Windows in any form
About 15 years ago I gave Linux a try, liked it and showed it to my wife who is less technical than me. She said she found it nicer than windows so I put it in the common computer and never looked back.
You can find as many excuses not to use Linux as I can give you reasons and solutions to try it… at the end of the day, try it, don’t try it, it’s your decision and you get to live with the consequences of those decisions. Me evangelizing about Linux is just as painful as hearing Window users complain about it yet unwilling to do anything but whine about it
If you do give it a try and have an issue, there are plenty places to get help for Linux better than the MS forums, this is undeniable.
Also, notice Windows is like bumper cars while Linux is like the entire vehicle fleet of the world, you want to drive a tank, you got it… wanna drive a super car, got it… wanna drive a hot air balloon that moves on good wishes, Linux has one distro just like that… you probably should not learn to drive in a Ferrari when you are late for work, choose a beginner friendly distro and move on from there at your pace if you feel like it
This. To many people who “just want to use” a computer, the OS in the background won’t make much of a difference, but linux makes it easier for the one maintaining it.
Lots less of us maintainer types than user types. User types like to pay for someone to fix it and buy a new one when that fails. There’s no enlightening them. When more pc’s come as Linux from the store and there is better support for a unified installer the real uptake won’t happen.
As a Linux user, I don’t really get it? What is the term supposed to signify? Why is the Linux dude in a well? I have so many questions
Everybody wants to complain about how bad things suck, and then just shrug and keep living with it.
Seriously, it sucks that Microsoft is an evil corporation spying on all Windows users. Nothing will change unless people start coming up with and using alternatives. This isn’t some fairytale where government regulation works in our favor, either. The only vote we have that matters to corporations is the choice to give them our money and data.
Linux has a learning curve, and there are some things that are frustrating at first. None of those things are more frustrating than having your personal computer ruled by the robber baron Bill Gates. Just my two cents. I am very intelligent.
I will say that there is a usability issue with some aspects of Linux. If you are not a sysadmin but want to use a computer for more than just browsing the web and sending email, you can get blocked pretty easily and the vast number of possible configurations out there makes troubleshooting way more difficult than on a windows or Mac machine.
There definitely is a usability issue, but it’s gotten insanely easier in just the 4 years I’ve been using it. Could you elaborate on what you mean by using a computer for more than browsing the web and sending email? My mind immediately goes to gaming, but I’m sure you mean other facets of PC use as well.
Well…gaming.
But also trying to use various apps that are more niche than browsers and office software.
For example, there is a creative writing app called Manuskript that doesn’t seem to install the same way if I’m using fedora and KDE or fedora and Gnome.
Or, I installed various distros on older Apple hardware and they don’t automatically mount a second drive that is present and detected, even after taking what should be the steps to auto-mount the drive at startup.
I suppose I’ve just been very fortunate with all my other software, but I haven’t had to jump through too many hoops to get stuff working.
I also generally just stick with 2 or 3 distros I know well, which has definitely helped usability. I’d imagine most casual users would do the same.
I’ll be honest, though. That shit is ready for gaming. I haven’t had real issues in games in years. Maybe a couple games display some reflections incorrectly, but I’m golden besides that. The only “problem” I’ve had is that a the anticheats for a lot of big, corporate, live-service games don’t support Linux. They could, if the developers wanted. I can actually play some official Microsoft games that use anticheat on Linux.
So like, Linux probably wouldn’t be good for you if you only play Call of Duty, but let’s be real: if you only play Call of Duty, you’re used to getting your teeth kicked in by the software company you stan. Keep on usin’ Windows, it’s just fine for your purposes.
I mean, there are only
twothree realistic options (four if you are that one BSD user):-
Either you use Windows and let Microsoft spy on you (or rely on unbloating scripts which might eventually break your OS and not even block all Microsoft spyware in the first place);
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You buy overpriced Mac computer, that might also spy on you, who knows;
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You use Linux.
Apple does spy on you, but unlike Google and Microsoft, they don’t sell your data.
But you still have to decide if you trust them with your info
Linux is the way to go* if you absolutely want to avoid any kind of spyware
*be mindful of the distro you choose. Some do have telemetry
If the telemetry is opt-in with a dialog window at first boot explaining why developers need telemetry, i don’t see the problem. It’s the difference between data freely given to help improve the system vs. data taken without consent to make you a better advertisement target.
edit: and i am pretty sure that the average FOSS-dev has way better ethics than the average microsoft data broker.
Apple does spy on you, but unlike Google and Microsoft, they don’t sell your data.
They are an American company though, so who knows how secure their data really is if a rich person decides they really want access.
Credit where credit is due, Apple did fight against FBI over something like this.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple–FBI_encryption_dispute
Yes the company has been good about not just handing over customer data, but I was thinking more in terms of if the data was taken by force, like by a fascist government.
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For me, it’s simple, it’s gaming. As soon as I can run competitive online games on Linux, I’ll switch fully. Meanwhile, my non gaming computer runs Linux, but my gaming rig runs Windows.
Same. They’re not gonna get much out of my gaming setup either since it’s a debloated Windows 10 with everything disabled that I don’t strictly need and I’m not logged into anything except the game launchers I use.
What ones specifically? I don’t bother with them these days, I’m mildly curious because I’m lucky enough to haven’t really found anything I can’t run.
Squad.
On ProtonDB some people say they have it running with no issues. But there’s just as many saying they can either only run it with shit performance or can’t connect to servers / play online.
Squad works fine for me on Linux. Performance is no worse than it is on windows. I need to add a caveat that I haven’t tried the new UE 5 builđs of the game yet, so I can’t comment in that.
Same. I have a gaming PC with Windows 11 only use it for gaming. Everything else, I do it on my laptop.
Nowadays games that don’t run are rare but they still exist. One of my favorite games, BF1, sadly stopped working on Linux after they introduced anti cheat (on the other hand, at least now there are no cheaters spamming artillery)
I also have a meta quest and the best software to link the headset to the PC, Virtual Desktop, sadly also doesn’t work on linux
At least for VR stuff, I find Linux to work pretty well with ALVR Streamer, which is basically an open source version of Virtual Desktop.
For anticheat, there are if course no real good solutions yet, for that, we just need better market share to pressure game developers.
Enjoy getting fucked by the corporate rootkits. I hope your gaming PC is just for gaming.
Fair enough, but most solutions to restrict data gathering by windows are often worked around by Microsoft via eventual windows updates which is a perpetual risk. In my experience, using Linux is less of a headache in the long run.
I don’t want Linus Torvald spying on me through my computer, either! /s
don’t worry, it would be Richard stallman
gcrowdstrike bricks my machine faster and more efficiently than the closed-source version
I use arch btw
The artificial superiority of linux users is the main barrier to creating more linux users
Right. Oh, I sue Arch btw.
What did Arch do to you?
What did Arch do to you? /j
:-(
They updated their graphics drivers and pipewire broke as a result
Wait, wait, wait. You’re blaming arch for Nvidia’s fuck up?
I should move but I just haven’t found a good time to uproot my main pc and have an extended period of downtime. I’m not really using windows exclusive stuff anymore.
They’re the best, they’re the worst. Like cuddling a hedgehog.
