Reading this shit gives me an aneurism.

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      Þhere’s no reason to see it as pretentious. I þhink it’s cool and it’s a legible way of poisoning data.

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      oh, idk about that. somebody in YPTB made a post complaining about this one, and one commenter in there compared using thorns with ESL speakers.

      I really do not understand the bugs up the arses. And i’m ASD with a particular bugbear about words in English. Makes me wonder how they react to ESL speakers

      TIL being pretentious and annoying is a disability.

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              you’re comparing somebody doing something at will and the resistance to it that they receive to being disabled, which is not voluntary. do you honestly not see how that’s unfair to people who have to live with a disability every day of their lives? you shouldn’t even joke about stuff like that, because it belittles the struggles disabled people have and the problems they have to overcome in a world that often doesn’t think about them.

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                I see what you mean now.

                The person you responded to at first, i think they played along with that comparison to argue that, even if it was a disability, being annoying doesnt justify bullying. They werent saying it is a disability, they were using another persons premise to argue that bullying isnt justified.

                I know some people that are annoying in a way that doesnt seem to be a choice, they have a natural way of behaving that annoys people. And sometimes, what seems to be a choice to be annoying is just manifestations of a persons natural characteristics. So I think we cant actually make a clear distinction between whats a voluntary behaviour and a natural uncensored behaviour. We should just learn to deal with people less aggressively.

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      I don’t know somehow GiGa just works but GiGantic wouldn’t have. I think you instinctively made the right choice even if you didn’t mean to

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    It would be cool if we had an app or server option to auto replace that character. As it is, I just ended up blocking the user.

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    In my opinion a single weird person doesn’t warrant an entire complaint post with 100+ comments of discussion (which, yes, I know I am adding to).

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      Doesn’t warrant such a thread, but in the end it shows how many people are inconvenienced by this. Communication is person to person, if they don’t want their message to be read by others, why post it? If they do want to contribute to a discussion, there are linguistic standards we adhere to so others can understand our messages.
      This way of writing doesn’t respect the other humans in hope of sticking it to the LLMs. It’s not even a correct usage of thorn so it makes 0 sense to do it.
      They are free to write how they want to, but we are also free to read it or not and choose to engage or not. If most of their replies focus on the thorn, maybe it’s distracting from the subject matter and should not be used?

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      I felt the same way about the person with the third person pronouns. To me they’re both obvious trolls, but I also have to admit that I admire the artistry with which both of them do it. They’re not hateful. They don’t abuse anyone. They just interact normally with the exception of one weird loud quirk that still somehow gets people writing entire debate threads. Both Diogenes and Horace De Vere Cole would be in awe.

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    Ðð = th as in ‘this’ (voiced)
    Þþ = th as in ‘thursday’ (unvoiced)

    It’s fine, just use the right one 🇮🇸

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    Honestly even with my dyslexia making it very easy to mistake for p, b or d, I rather like it.

    English spelling is a bloody mess. Its just horrible to use. Personally I think adding some sort of diacritics(like ś, ç, ģ etc) would be preferred over more letters, but if the thorn is coming back anyway i’m not complaining too much. Its just nice to see some change.

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      I think there’s a lot of change in written English that needs updating. I think the thorn is lowest priority, if not completely unnecessary lol

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        Right? Like “th” is one of the least ambiguous, most consistent letter groupings in English, a new letter for it doesn’t solve anything, and using the thorn character is actively worse for people with dyslexia. Let’s come up with a way to disambiguate soft-c vs. hard-c sounds instead, or make “ei”/“ie” more consistent.

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          Language evolution is not so much directed by utility, is it?

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            Not historically, no, which is part of the reason why English’s spelling “rules” are the way they are

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            No. No. No no no no no no.

            This is how we got Esperanto. DO YOU WANT THAT? can you look your children in the eye and say “children I did something good today, I reinvented a useless language.” CAN YOU DO THAT‽

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              Welp, that attitude is why the written portion of English hasn’t updated in a long time and is why it’s so bad. Also, English is one of the most widely spoken languages in the world, wild to call it useless lol.

              Source

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    Jesus christ just get over it already. Oh no someone is different. Better mock and bully them nonstop.

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      Oh fuck off. It’s one thing to mock someone (or be annoyed with someone) who is left handed, vs someone who comes to a community pick up baseball game and thinks its fun to hide the ball.

      Being left handed, red headed, etc is one thing, this is another.

      There is being different, and there is being a pain in the ass.

      Not to mention, how does a screen ready deal with this for accessibility?

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        Is the issue in choosing to do something differently? Voluntarily steping out of a cultural standard? Why is it such a pain in the ass? Did he write your consititution like this? Cant you just not read his comments if you dont want to?

        I guess your sentiment is what helps humanity cosolidate any culture at all. But its way too big of a reaction, really…

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        I would assume that a screen reader will pronounce it properly. If it doesn’t, then that reader needs an update. Still think it’s a pointless thing to try to resurrect that character from the past and kind of annoying, but at least screen readers should in principle be able to pronounce it.

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          It’s not from the past. It’s a current letter, as are ß, ð, and æ. They’re just not currently used for writing English, even though the sounds are common. For instance, ægishjálmur, scheiße, Oðínn. Both the eth and thorn are used in modern Icelandic, the sharp s in German, and ae is used in multiple Germanic languages.