• ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    What is this a screenshot of?

    (I know it’s not a screenshot of anything and is just a pathetic attempt at adding legitimacy and weight to something some guy just typed up.)

    • Zetta@mander.xyz
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      4 months ago

      Servo is advertised, atleast what I’ve seen, as a lightweight browser for embedded devices. I’m hyped for ladybird, and servo if it Is going to be focused on more than low power devices

  • Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    4 months ago

    My main criteria for a browser is not being Chrome or Chromium based.

    This leaves my only options being Firefox and it’s forks.

    Or Microsoft Edge which stifles laughter I’m not gonna do.

    Currently on Firefox but might give Librewolf a try.

      • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        4 months ago

        Safari breaks everything though. Tons of sites out there flat out do not work properly with safari and at this point we all know that’s intentional.

          • gwl [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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            4 months ago

            Brand Tribalism only supports the brands, don’t fall for their bullshit.

            iOS and Android and Microsoft and Linux users are all just as smart as each other.

            • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              4 months ago

              I said tech savvy, not smart. This isn’t brand tribalism, it comes directly from what you are and aren’t able to do with the OS compared to alternatives.

              • gwl [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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                4 months ago

                You can install other browsers without being tech savvy, it was legally mandated that they allow it after them and Microsoft got sued for anti-competition laws by the EU

                • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  4 months ago

                  I wasn’t just referring to browsers, I was referring to the design philosophy as a whole and the type of users it draws.

      • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        4 months ago

        As alternatives to webkit/chromium/gecko browsers go, I like ladybird’s speed of progress and their mentality of doing everything themselves (no external dependencies), but Kling’s political views are concerning. Servo is going slower but still making progress (fell behind in implementing web standards), and both are kinda terrible in terms of speed afaik

    • Ledivin@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Edge is Chromium-based. It’s also not (functionally) half bad, because, well, it’s chromium based, but that obviously comes with all the other drawbacks

      • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
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        4 months ago

        My workplace is basically as close to 100% Microsoft as you can get. When I started I figured “hey let’s try out this new Edge browser and see if it’s as good as people are saying” and y’know what, it’s had some nice features that Chrome lacks that I really appreciate.

        However Microsoft entirely killed it for me by recently making every browser profile automatically sign into the Microsoft account that Windows is signed into. I was using different profiles to use different Microsoft accounts for managing Microsoft services so now I have my named account everywhere instead of the correct admin account that actually has access to more than the bare minimum. Literally entirely defeated the purpose of browser profiles. So I switched to Firefox at work because I can use the tab container feature for the same purpose and have fewer windows open at once as an added benefit

      • Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        4 months ago

        It’s moreso that it’s under Microsoft’s thumb. See all the tech companies are unreliable and out for you data but Microsoft also consistently fumbles on everything. They made Windows and Office then just stopped doing anything new and kept making their old products worse.

        Xbox is practically dead, they bought Minecraft and you can feel the vultures circling overhead, even the AI bubble they’re just funding OpenAI and making slight adjustments for their own versions.

        I’m planning on jumping ship to Linux when I make a new PC. Only thing Microsoft I even consider using nowadays is VScode.

        • w3dd1e@lemmy.zip
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          4 months ago

          I don’t trust anything built on Chromium. I know it’s technically open source but I don’t trust anything owned by Google. (Tho this doesn’t matter as much for the iOS browser since Apple forces everything to use WebKit)

          Brave doesn’t use Google telemetry, it is not telemetry free and it is sending data back to Brave.

          But mainly, the guy who founded Brave Software and their investors are all fucksticks and I will do everything in my power to avoid giving them a dime.

          Brendan Eich is against LGBT+ rights and his company Brave Software is supported by Peter Thiel.

          Brave has their own ad software and they do their own shady crypto non-sense.

          I pay for Kagi search so the Orion browser was a natural step for me. Orion browser has zero ads, zero telemetry and no AI. Plus I can use Firefox and Chrome extensions.

          I’m not saying Orion/Kagi is perfect by any means. Sometimes the extensions are wonky and Orion doesn’t work with local network devices. But they don’t own an ad company on the side like Firefox and Brave.

          Kagi was funded by VCs so it’s a matter of time until they start squeezing, but right now, I trust them more than I would trust Brave.

  • Guillermosaenz@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    If you want a low-drama setup: Firefox + uBlock Origin + tweak Enhanced Tracking Protection to ‘Strict’. Brave is solid too, but I’ve had a few sites act weird with the defaults.

      • pyre@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        there is none, unfortunately. the best you can do is Firefox forks. i use zen, some people use librewolf, but that doesn’t change the fact that Mozilla is getting worse every day. idk how we can get past that other than having another whole ass foundation that invests in a new browser.

  • 4am@lemmy.zip
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    4 months ago

    Brave has crypto minded shit built in, and they “protect you” by running their own tracking network, so they can be the exclusive sellers of the data.

    Fuck brave.

    • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      crypto minded shit built in

      It’s opt-in.

      they can be the exclusive sellers of the data.

      You just described every single internet service that you’re not actively paying for.

      Fuck Brave.

      I respect your opinion, even if it’s silly.

      • Lytia @lemmy.today
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        4 months ago

        It’s opt-in.

        Yeah, the part that makes you money is. Still have to manually disable all of the popups and icons begging you to use it.

        You just described every single internet service that you’re not actively paying for.

        Difference is those sites don’t necessarily advertise themselves as “privacy respecting”

      • Sleepkever@lemmy.zip
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        4 months ago

        Then we point to the in opt-out able donation systems they embedded into YouTube. The money goes directly to brave unless claimed and even if the content creators are against donations for their content (like Tom Scott) it’s never refunded.

        Or we point to their affiliate links they embedded in every link to crypto sites for a while. Or the one site that recommends them as the best privacy browser that’s actually run by a Brave employee.

        Everytime they fix it in a few weeks and tell everyone they will be better. And every time they find some other way to manipulate websites you are viewing for their gain after a year or so.

        At this point it’s not the current state anymore, it’s the track record of the company that just scummy that should make you lose trust in them, but apparently their ad campaign is so effective everyone just sees the default ad blocking…

    • FosterMolasses@leminal.spaceEnglish
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      4 months ago

      Saved your comment so I can quote it anytime I see somebody try to push Brave on someone else. It’s like the Jehovah’s Witnesses of browsers Istg.

  • Bonsoir@lemmy.ca
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    4 months ago

    That’s why you should never trust a company’s opinion on competitors. The best option for privacy is actually not to have personal data.

  • FosterMolasses@leminal.spaceEnglish
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    4 months ago

    From the Brave website:

    Beyond this core engine, Brave has built in tons of custom features atop that open-source Chromium core:

    • Built-in ad blocker
    • YouTube ad blocker
    • AI assistant

    Yeah, no. I’ll stick with LibreWolf.

    • Yggstyle@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Yeah. That’s where I went. If AI is good enough - it should sell itself. All these browsers have plugins. I see no reason to bake it in unless there’s an alteror motive.

      Everyone’s in a hurry to milk that AI cow… Its a shame about the taste tho.

    • Victor@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Not to mention that the CEO of Brave is a homophobic bigot. Good enough for me to boycott as a cis het male.

      • Yggstyle@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        het male

        You can call somone a bigoted piece of shit without literally including a group who have fuck all to do with him or his shit opinions. Let’s be better than the exact thing you are calling out. I was with you right up to the last two words which were utterly unnecessary.

        Edit:

        On second reading I’m not clear on the intent of the last statement. I’ll ammend my statement after clarification 👍

        • Victor@lemmy.world
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          4 months ago

          I don’t need to explain myself to you, but I will indulge you nonetheless because of the message I’m trying to spread, even though your attitude off the bat really sucked. 😛

          I added it because I want to normalize that you can support something or boycott something even though not doing so doesn’t affect you directly. You can stand up for something because it’s right, not just because you stand to gain something from it.

          It’s meant to normalize solidarity, which we see very little of in today’s humanitarian and political climate.

          I hope that satisfies you and maybe think one step further before jumping to criticize so quickly. You did make an edit but it didn’t do too much with its demanding tone.

          Happy continuation of the holidays to you.

          • Yggstyle@lemmy.world
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            4 months ago

            Considering the edit I made after rereading it - I had difficulty determining if you were firing shots or describing yourself. Speed reading and eggnog mix about as well as one would expect. In short - I’m not here to pick a fight where there isn’t one.

            I’m perfectly happy that my original interpretation was incorrect and will amend my comments as my edit suggested. I understand a lot of marginalized groups are frequently hurt and can lash out generically against the group that hurt them. Its not fun being included in that - which was the intent of my original statement.

            Appreciate the reply - cheers and well wishes. 👍

            • Victor@lemmy.world
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              4 months ago

              No worries, you owned up to the mistake in a very nice manner. We’re cool, you’re a good person.

              Happy new years, eh!

              • Yggstyle@lemmy.world
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                4 months ago

                I’ll admit my booze and nutmeg loaded brain tripped over the acronyms and by the time it processed I’d posted and moved on. A moment later: “holdup…”

                Apologies for the mistake again - and here’s hoping 2026 is kind to us 🍻

      • Akip@piefed.worldEnglish
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        4 months ago

        My plan is usually, Librewolf for everything. Waterfox when I’m going to log in to the service anyways. Mullvad browser when my customized librewolf(not advised) breaks websites. Ungoogled Chromium when needed because of engine(e.g. testUfo).

        • IngeniousRocks (They/She) @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          4 months ago

          I rented a movie the other day online that wanted real full fat Google chrome to be able to stream on Linux. I installed it in a sandbox, locked it down right, then promptly uninstalled it 3 hours later when the movie was over. Never again.

          Fandango at home, for anyone wondering which service absolutely requires full fat Google chrome

            • IngeniousRocks (They/She) @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              4 months ago

              I don’t want to own a copy of James Cameron’s Avatar The Way Of Water. I have a 4k BR Player and a libredrive for ripping and wouldve just purchased it if I cared to ever watch it again

              Sometimes I only want to watch a movie once, my partner was dragging me to the new one and I hadn’t seen the second one so I needed context.

      • rockerface🇺🇦@lemmy.cafeEnglish
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        4 months ago

        The only issue I had experienced is that timestamps on Twitch and YouTube chats are displaying time in GMT+0 instead of my timezone. Which is understandable as part of anti-fingerprinting. But that’s just anecdotal experience.

          • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
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            4 months ago

            I dont think its about the timezone being shared specifically. Its that your timezone can be a part of the puzzle used to track and identify you.

            Ad companies dont need to know your name to know who you are. They just need to be able to track your online habits and they can build a digital signature that is you, and they can target that signature and know what to advertise without knowing who you are.

            • rockerface🇺🇦@lemmy.cafeEnglish
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              4 months ago

              Yep, anti-fingerprinting is a bunch of smaller features, like not auto setting dark theme, not sharing your timezone, not sharing your specific browser version and so on.

        • Naho_Zako@piefed.zipEnglish
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          4 months ago

          This unfortunately made some issues for me, as the service I was using to study Japanese had an SRS, so the reviews were based on times. I did find a timezone setting but I swear the website didn’t have one originally.

          Anyway most of the time the timezone settings don’t matter but I wish I knew how to toggle just that when I need it.

          • Ghoelian@piefed.socialEnglish
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            4 months ago

            Iirc the only way to disable timezone spoofing is to disable resist fingerprinting altogether, which you can do per website in about:config. Don’t remember exactly what the setting is called bit if you search for fingerprinting you should find it.

      • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        4 months ago

        maybe we’ll get lucky and they just stop adding bullshit and one of the forks just keeps fixing vulnerabilities and adding things required for the out of control standards that ditched even version numbers lol.

      • rockerface🇺🇦@lemmy.cafeEnglish
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        4 months ago

        The same question could be asked about Chromium, though. When Google completely enshittifies the engine, what happens to every browser based on it?