COLUMN. To win the cultural and intellectual battle, Europe must staunchly defend its model, writes the economist in his column, dismantling the narrative of a 'declining' continent.
Conflict is not war. War is international conflict, not two sets of dickheads doing the same thing they’ve been doing for millennia.
Here’s a hint. How many countries were involved in Bosnia and when was the first international genocide conviction in Europe since the Nuremberg trials?
Okay so if we take your definition in which a civil war isn’t a war: when the Soviet Union rolled tens of thousands of troops with tanks into Hungary, or when Turkey invaded Cyprus and made a new country out of a third of it, or when Russia put 14,000 troops in Moldova and made a new country out of the bit north of the Dniester, what exactly made those not international in your view?
How many countries were involved in Bosnia
At least three depending on what you count as a country. Again, given that it started before the EU existed, why are you saying that no wars happened between the end of WWII and the creation of the EU?
when was the first international genocide conviction in Europe since the Nuremberg trials?
Bosnia was the only one to involve international involvement. I’m not sure how I can explain it more simply.
It was one of the largest international interventions of the late 20th century.
United Nations (UNPROFOR): The UN Protection Force involved troops from over 40 countries, including the United Kingdom, France, Canada, Pakistan, and the Netherlands.
NATO: Marking its first-ever combat operations, NATO intervened via Operation Deliberate Force in 1995. Key contributors included the United States, United Kingdom, France, Germany, and Spain.
Contact Group: A diplomatic body formed to facilitate peace, consisting of the United States, United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, and Russia.
Foreign Volunteers: Thousands of volunteers joined various sides, including “mujahideen” from various Middle Eastern and North African countries supporting the Bosniaks, and Greek and Russian volunteers supporting the Bosnian Serbs.
It’s considered the worst conflict in Europe since 1945. Genocide, ethnic cleansing. Millions displaced, rape as a weapon. Major multinational involvement.
If you want to dance on the head of the pin, yes there were other wars, but none of that scale Doesn’t change history.
Lol, yes it started in 1992, well done you finally got something right.
Er, the previous definition sets the current one?
Conflict is not war. War is international conflict, not two sets of dickheads doing the same thing they’ve been doing for millennia.
Here’s a hint. How many countries were involved in Bosnia and when was the first international genocide conviction in Europe since the Nuremberg trials?
Okay so if we take your definition in which a civil war isn’t a war: when the Soviet Union rolled tens of thousands of troops with tanks into Hungary, or when Turkey invaded Cyprus and made a new country out of a third of it, or when Russia put 14,000 troops in Moldova and made a new country out of the bit north of the Dniester, what exactly made those not international in your view?
At least three depending on what you count as a country. Again, given that it started before the EU existed, why are you saying that no wars happened between the end of WWII and the creation of the EU?
As I said. It was the only genocide since WW2 in Europe.
…okay? How is that relevant to your claim of there being no wars in Europe from 1945 to 1993?
Bosnia was the only one to involve international involvement. I’m not sure how I can explain it more simply.
It was one of the largest international interventions of the late 20th century.
United Nations (UNPROFOR): The UN Protection Force involved troops from over 40 countries, including the United Kingdom, France, Canada, Pakistan, and the Netherlands.
NATO: Marking its first-ever combat operations, NATO intervened via Operation Deliberate Force in 1995. Key contributors included the United States, United Kingdom, France, Germany, and Spain.
Contact Group: A diplomatic body formed to facilitate peace, consisting of the United States, United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, and Russia.
Foreign Volunteers: Thousands of volunteers joined various sides, including “mujahideen” from various Middle Eastern and North African countries supporting the Bosniaks, and Greek and Russian volunteers supporting the Bosnian Serbs.
Right, so you’re just objectively wrong and also the genocide conviction is indeed irrelevant.
And to counter that, you’re bringing up an example that also started before the EU was made
It’s considered the worst conflict in Europe since 1945. Genocide, ethnic cleansing. Millions displaced, rape as a weapon. Major multinational involvement.
If you want to dance on the head of the pin, yes there were other wars, but none of that scale Doesn’t change history.
Lol, yes it started in 1992, well done you finally got something right.
So, in other words, when you said, “There were no wars in Europe since ww2 until [1993]”, you were in fact completely talking out your arse
Ok, there were no major wars between the end of the 2nd world war and the formation of the EU. Happy now?
It was just a casual comment mate, get over yourself