• manniesalado@piefed.social
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    11 hours ago

    Trump’s Oligarch tech pals should pay no tax! And the Yank consumer stands ready to pay any punishment tariffs that war on Oligarch taxation demands.

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    15 hours ago

    This is a huge threat and we owe it to ourselves to defend against this sort of meddling. Look at the results of similar campaigns that pushed Brexit and Trump’s candidacy.

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      15 hours ago

      There is a humanist middle ground between domestic state censorship on the in hand and capture of the media and political agenda by American tech-giants on the other. Both can lead to totalitarianism.

      I for one would be more concerned about the increasingly fascist foreign power seeking to meddle with political discourse and sovereignty in the EU.

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        15 hours ago

        One can find common ground here: anti-censorship; free speech. An enemy of your enemy is temporarily helpful; help which is important to further mutual aims.

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          10 hours ago

          Just be specific: what european law do you think is holding back free speech? Just so we know what you really mean when you say that.

          Let me give you an example of one that I think upholds free speech: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bans_on_Nazi_symbols by setting ground rules. Without rules, there is no free speech, it’s like the rules of the road: you need a common ground to even start to debate things productively.

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          Adopting the American obsession with ‘free-speech’ is not helpful imo.

          For one, the term itself has become a right-wing dog-whistle that essentially means that billionaires can publicly say fucked up stuff without pushback by civil society, courts, etc. Their freedom of speech entails complete freedom from consequences for that speech.

          Also, there is no such thing as free speech in a society of such structurally unequal footing. There are many, many reasonable and kind people all over the world speaking freely in daily life. But their reach is naturally limited to their local community.

          They are being drowned out, however, by individuals such as Musk and Trump who have immense reach on both linear and social media and both actually own their own social media platforms. If they exercise their free speech, they sway international politics, the stock market, and slowly derode our shared sense of moral decency.

          There is no free speech without independent and pluralistic media, rule of law and a liberal civil society.

          So if you’re concerned about free speech, you should rage against centralized social media, consolidated media conglomerates, overexerted courts and public bureaucracies, and the general sense of despair and hopelessness that causes the public to become apolitical - and certainly don’t put your hope in the help of subversive far-right tinktanks financed by American fascists.

          Also, on that note, you can be sure that those right-wing think tanks will not only promote ‘free speech’, whatever that means. They will fight European integration and the EU, social security, liberal democracy, LGBTQ rights, etc.