Leaker here is Brad Lynch, who generally seems reliable as a leaker for Valve software and products. He was also the source for the leaked renders of the steam controller.

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    “DEBATE ME”

    lol but seriously who cares who’s first if we’re going with who’s thumbstick layout was first then it’s n64 and I think we agree nobody wants that

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      1. Wii, Wii U, and Steam Deck (soon Steam Controller) did it that way

      2. N64 wasn’t dual analog, so not relevant since it wasn’t symmetrical or asymmetrical.

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          The layout was very very non standard and had a single stick. I’m smoking a lot of weed but I can tell you the n64 controller doesn’t count here.

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            I said it was first I didn’t say it was standard. But being the first it definitionally can’t be “nonstandard” since it was the only one at the time!

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              How many controllers since the N64 have used that layout? The Sega Saturn Fat Controller is a more standard layout than the N64 controller.

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          I’ll just include consoles that came with symmetrical or asymmetrical for simplicity’s sake:

          Symmetrical:

          PS2: 160 million

          PS3: 87 million

          PS4: 117 million

          PS5: 92 million

          Wii U: 14 million

          Symmetrical total: 470 million

          Asymmetrical:

          Xbox: 24 million

          Xbox 360: 84 million

          Xbox One: 58 million

          Xbox Series X: 35 million

          Gamecube: 21 million

          Switch: 155 million

          Switch 2: 17 million

          Asymmetrical total: 394 million

          More people have played on symmetrical controllers than asymmetrical.

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          Why would a single analog stick be relevant in a discussion of whether symmetrical or asymmetrical analog sticks are “regular”?