windows: installing updates, do not power off
me: the fuck you are dismantles laptop and rips out battery
Linux: shutdown now
This is just not true.
- Linux does have a graceful process.
- Windows’s process is not graceful
Yeah and in linux when you say “kill this process” that process fucking dies. No 10 minutes of windows trying to negotiating with a crashed program to close. No I’m not angry about this happening to me at work today, why do you ask?
My Windows is more like “I am scheduling the restart. Pray I don’t schedule it any sooner.”
Mine will do the restart and boot into Linux.
Windows Updates are always like that. Halfway through it’s got to restart, bootloader picks Linux, Windows doesn’t get to finish the other half of its update til the next time it’s chosen.
you know you can make it so the last used OS gets booted right?
You can configure Grub to boot into whichever entry you last selected. Makes rebooting much more convenient
Is Linux higher in your boot priority?
When I had a dualboot, that’s how I ordered it.
Linux is higher in any priority.
Always has been.
That random systemd service waiting 1.5 minutes.
You all not suspend/hibernate?
This is so fucking annoying. Whenever you try to run something not clearly meant for the desktop, there is like a 80/20 chance that you can completely forget suspend…
Yeah, I was thinking that. I wish we had a button (other than power off) to stop the service immediately.
Mine suspends immediately.
for the most part i don’t care, but really, all those fucking terminals i left open, i know they’re open, that click per window of yes close has never been helpful
I used to override that setting.
I…uh…learned some uses for it.
I bet there were interesting uses.
I won’t say i’ve never shut down a long running process, but i’ve gotten a lot better at not running them adhoc in a terminal :)
The program ‘btop’ is currently running in this session. Are you sure you want to close it?
i’ll prob just start running pkill konsole before shutdown. was thinking of pkexec /sbin/shutdown -h now on a button, but it is kind of nice having some of my apps recover on reboot.
I just don’t shutdown until I get a big backlog of updates. I have to remount my SSD with my games on it every time, then tell steam.
what? why? can you not persist your mounting scheme in the fstab? sorry if i’m being ignorant just genuinely wondering
I blew up the OS a few times doing that wrong. I’ll just hit the mount button. Good enough.
I do
yes | sudo pacman -Syu && sudo poweroff(Update and poweroff)
You don’t need sudo to run poweroff on Arch, provided there’s no other users logged into the system
And it’s a login shell.
Assuming you enter your password upon running
sudo, isn’t there the risk ofsudo’s privilege timing out ifpacmantakes too long to complete? I believe I tried something similar, intending to run a one-liner I could start then walk away from. However, I ended up returning to see the system not rebooted hours later.Or is
yessomehow supposed to take care of this? Sorry, newish Debian user here who hasn’t ventured outside the distribution much.Yes, in this
commandone liner, the system should not power off when the update took too long.Or is
yessomehow supposed to take care of this?No,
yesis simply answering all questions asked during the update procedure (start upgrade, replace config files, restart services) with “yes”.There’s no timeout for sudo. When permitted, a process runs as root and then closes.Also, the system will still shutdown when update fails because pipes do not care if previous commands exit with a nonzero code, unlesspipefailis set.Edit: i’m blind.
The command after
&&runs only if the previous command returns non-error exit status (0), ifpacmanreturns error the latter command won’t be executed.Additionally there’s probably a configuration option for
sudofor it to not time out, but it doesn’t matter since you can just usesystemctl rebootas a normal user to reboot your system (at least on Debian). If that’s too long I recommend to add this to your.bashrc(if you use Bash):alias reb='systemctl reboot'or something similar.Maybe this is just a
yaything but I think if sudo priveleges run out while downloading the files it prompts you for your password again before performing the changes. That would lead to it either trying to use theyesoutput or getting stuck in the password prompt, only failing in the prior.This entire problem could be solved by just running it as the root user.
Fuck that noise
sudo shutdown 0turn off NOW bitch!I prefer shutdown now gives me a feeling of power
Linux is so strong I turn it off from the power button. Saving 5 seconds.
That’s weak. I always pull on the power cord until the plug comes out. That shuts it down in a second flat.
I was talking about a laptop with non-removable battery of course! I turn off my desktop via Zigbee remote hooked to Home Assistant which flips a Zigbee power switch that the AC power cord is hooked up to. Even faster death than going under the desk and unplugging the power cord. Even just unplugging itself takes time.
I’m a little spoiled by this. I did it on Windows and had to rebuild the boot partition.
Managed to wreck my NVMe drive with an unsafe shutdown on linux the other week, gave it a few hours for the self check, booted back into the distro and has been running fine ever since.
Pretty sure windows would’ve just set the computer on fire at this point.
Windows after pressing shutdown and update: you wanted to use me still right???
Shutdown isn’t shutdown anymore, so it has to reboot for the updates. After the reboot, though, there’s no longer a shutdown pending.
It’s a screenshot of a screenshot in a video? What’s that shield?
Ah I completely forgot that it was a separate extension, I only use it in smarttube 😂
It’s a screenshot of a video that I did
You did the screenshot, or the video? Or both?
me turning off the power supply: (i didn’t have anything open so hopefully it’s fine…)
It’s much less risky than it used to be. Journaling filesystems reduce the risk of filesystem corruption to near zero and are fairly ubiquitous now on non& removable media.
On my work PC I disabled automatic restarts and I’ll just hibernate it for weeks at a time, keeping my work stuff open. Convenient, and I can install updates when I choose to.
Y’all don’t delete WSUS, block all of the M$ IPs at both your HOSTS file and your router, and stop all update processes?
Do you even know how Windows works?
I don’t really, I just use Linux
Fair. I have two identical PCs. One is Win10, the other is Mint. Saves on figuring out dual-booting.
I just spin up a VM if I really need Windows for something. Haven’t needed it for some years but it’s good to have it just in case
goddamn generation loss-ass meme.
One thing I’ve seen my computer do a few times: log me out, by itself. Some rare times I try and unlock back into my session, my current open and active user with my programs running, and instead I am greeted not by my desktop as it was when I locked the screen, but rather the lock screen as it was before I even logged in the first time around
