• azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works
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    I absolutely hate that phones got so darn big. Im stuck with iPhone 13 mini even though I hate iOS with no clear upgrade path

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    3 days ago

    Anyone remember when Steve Jobs said in response to adding video support to the iPod that “nobody wants to watch videos on a handheld?” And then just a few months later, iPods got support for images and videos?

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      and when iPhone 4 was released, Apple also explained it had the perfect size because you could reach any part of the screen with your thumb while holding it in your hand… but also, antennagate. Steve Jobs was full of crap.

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    And what if I don’t want to watch “stuff” on my phone? My phone is supposed to be a portable “swiss-army-knife” of digital tools.

    They made tablets for the other “stuff”

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      I think most of the population are on tiktok and that crack, need big screen for maximum experience…

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        I’ll never forget circa 2005, my friend was at the Montreal jazz festival or something. He told me about it and he said he took a video. He whipped out his phone that was basically a really thick pen. He showed me a video of another friend doing goofy stuff. Even on this tiny phonewith a tiny screen, it was really enough. I miss the time when someone took out his phone and you actually had no idea what to expect.

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    I remember back in 1990ish, there was a guy involved in the local music scene who got interviewed on AM radio (Right before the rise of conservative talk radio, when there were still local hosts talking about local issues.). This guy wasn’t a big shot and not a musician, just a guy passabout music. tmusic. He went by the moniker Jim Clevo, I had the fortune of meeting him once. Anyways, he had insight as to where the music industry was headed. In the interview, he told how in the future we would be listening to music through our phones. At the time high tech was a cordless landlines with an answering machine built in. He sounded crazy, i couldn’t figure out why he thought we would all be holding phones up to our ears listening to music, I never had anything but a corded phone at the time. Not sure why I’m rambling about it other than this post reminded me of him.

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      I mean as soon as cassettes were a thing, mix tapes by holding the cassette to the radio became a thing right? Why not phones?

      Hell back in the 80s, before the breakup of Yugoslavia, they went a step further: they had a home PC that could be built from parts available at electronics stores. It used a cassette recorder for a HDD.

      A local radio station started broadcasting software, pc owners could record the audio of a program on a Walkman, then put the tape in their PC.

      There’s a past we never got where a radio-based internet existed alongside the landlines based one.

  • BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world
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    We didn’t “realise” we could watch stuff; we got touch screen technology, wifi and mobile data became cheaper as we got 3G, 4G and 5G. The we *could *watch stuff, and browse the internet - this was always the obvious course of phones even in the 90s when bricks were still around. Meanwhile battery tech hasn’t moved forwards much, so these big screen, wifi, Bluetooth & 5G connected,video playing devices need bigger batteries to keep going all day. Ironically a bigger device - even with a bigger screen - will have a longer battery life because you can physically fit a bigger battery in.

    Also this chart stops at 2015 - and thats still accurate. Mobile phone tech has plateaued. Time was, iPhone launches each year were a big deal because Apple was good at bringing previously out a of reach tech into the mass market. Now all the changes are minor and phone launches are dull. iPhones are now just popular because they’re iPhones. Chips are getting a bit more energy efficient pushing the capabilities a bit; but cameras, screens, storage and connectivity are probably as good as they’re going to get for now beyone incremental changes.

    We’re now probably in the enshittification phase where companies try to justify ever increasing prices but can’t - iPhone prices have been largely static for 5 years because Apple can’t find a compelling reason to increase them. Whether there are stupid notches in the phone display, or expensive accessories like wireless headphones or now trying to up-sell people on software / services - ultimately a phone is just a phone now. The manufacturers latest hope is that somehow AI will allow them to charge more but it’s looking like AI in it’s current form has little value to consumers. Apple has delayed it’s changes to Siri because it’s struggling to make something that isn’t basically just another unreliable overhyped LLM.

    Realistically the next real leap in phones will probably only come if and when battery tech improves; if smaller high energy density batteries come then that really will unlock a new revolution. The AI bubble doesn’t look like it’s going to deliver.

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      Before full touch screens came out I bought a small windows CE full screen device and put a few videos on it on a card (can’t recall if it was sd or something more primitive) and watched anime in between calls at work.

      I always wanted this, and phones getting better at it just meant less devices. I am partial to phablets and fold phones because I like to read books,light novels,and manga on a bigger screen while being portable. I have in the past used both a tablet and phone before I got my fold, and when the inside screen of my fold failed after a couple years I am now back at both until I can afford a replacement.

      I know not everyone wants this, but that’s why we have options, and dumb/feature phones can still be purchased, even from large carriers (though price of plan may be wasted on those). These memes act like there are only smartphones now, but dumbphones were always an option.

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      Realistically the next real leap in phones will probably only come if and when battery tech improves

      I don’t think so. The real thing is just ergonomics. They want as big a screen as they can and human hands are only so big. They won’t retreat in form factor.

      If anything they’ll are toying w bit with folding screens to make devices scale up and still be hand friendly.

      The next big step is going to have to be wearable, to produce arbitrarily large content hands free. Don’t know if social norms will tolerate it, but that’s really the possible evolution from the status quo.

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        I mean the weight symbol itself is scaled. To make it look like modern phones are nearly back to the old weights they made the last bag as big as the third one instead of the fifth

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    This graphic is missing the (de)evolution in phones when manufacturers unnecessarily started putting holes and notches in the screens.

    #StopPuttingCutoutsInMyFuckingDisplays #BringBackBezels

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      Some phones go to the extreme, but my small circle camera cutout doesn’t bother me. On a phone, it’s always in the status/notification bar anyways so not a big deal unless you watch a lot of widescreen content.

      The biggest deevolution must be audio jacks… the big lie of “we need to remove them so we can make your phones smaller”, just for phones to get thicker. Surely it can fit.

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    I think a lot of the reason phones are getting bigger is because of battery life. You can absolutely make a small phone with a big battery, but then it would be thicc and people (read plebs) don’t want little bricks, they want big slabs.

    So for the few of us that want little bricks, we’re just entirely fucked. There are the Jelly phones, but they run Android, and I’d rather have a slab that spies on me a little less than a perfect brick filled to the brim with Google spyware.

    I’m waiting and hoping and waiting and hoping that Linux phones get to the point where I can daily drive one.

    • Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world
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      I am in this camp- little brick with a replaceable battery because if I want to watch a show or play a game I’ll use a different device. Absolutely no one caters to us. I would also pick a Linux phone if I could in that form factor but in the US there’s not even a smattering of choice. To make a Linux phone work you’d need an emulation layer to make android apps work (I honestly don’t know the state of Linux phones on this ) but without it you’d be using a windows phone with craptastic app support. That’s what really killed WIndows phone. Lets keep hoping brother.

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    More like corporations realized that people with larger screens tend to browse more content and spend more time in their phones, so they made it the only available option, whether you like it or not.

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      Not sure it’s really relevant how long someone spends on their phone. The only thing that matters to them are sales, and the simple matter is that larger screens sell better than their smaller counterparts.

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      And as a fan of large screens (like projectors), I couldn’t be happier. Hence why I own a foldable, because most phone screens still aren’t large enough to satisfy me.

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        I am so opposite of this - you could never sell me a foldable - I can’t even find one Android game that is worth playing that isn’t a remake of an old PC game. That folding will eventually kill the device earlier than a non fold. I just don’t see the draw… I have a tablet or laptop or pc for games and other stuff.

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          Don’t know what to tell you, because I’ve owned four different foldables and none of them ever had any issues. They’re just durable and reliable as any other phone.

          You remind me of the kind of people who avoid OLEDs, because they still believe that burn-in is an issue that wasn’t solved years ago…