What in the orphan crushing machine is this shit?!
https://maritime-executive.com/article/bananas-ahoy-as-overboard-containers-wash-ashore
Bananas Galore!
This reminds me of when a large whiskey distillery broke in 19th century Ireland and many people died. Not from large quantities of alcohol sweeping people away (something like that happened in London in the early 19th century) but from passerby drinking so much of the stuff they died of alcohol poisoning.
Most Irish way to die ever!
something like that happened in London in the early 19th century
There was also a molasses flood in Boston in 1919
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Molasses_Flood?useskin=vector
That was a sticky way to die!
Those children are criminals that should be punished and locked up! /s
The cargo company should be prosecuted for littering. Unless they can convince some benevolent locals to go help them clean up the spill.
Members of the British government have been calling for strong efforts to ensure the shipping company and its insurers will pay the costs of the cleanup. Seatrade, which operates the vessel, said its insurers are fully engaged in the process, and in the meantime, volunteers are scouring the beaches, aiding in the cleanup (and possibly taking a few bananas home as a reward).
Oh goodie, the insurers are fully engaged! I’m sure they will help clear the quickly rotting food off the beach just as much as the volunteers who are physically there doing actual work.
God I hate pencil-pusher culture, it’s so weird 😂
its insurers are fully engaged in the process
I am now imagining an insurance office where suddenly an alarm goes off:
The lights turn red, a siren howls, and everyone jumps up from their seats and runs to a garage where black vans are wating with the engines running.
They drive to the beach and frantically start picking up bananas, in a race against time and decomposition.I was thinking some sort of boardroom with a big screen on one wall, showing a beach covered in bananas, with some bald fella, who is unmistakably French, looking on, then waving his hand and saying “Engage.”
But alas instead it’s a board of lawyers that are engaged in a race to find a loophole to get out of this without spending anything cleaning.
In my area there are independent contractors who listen in on their police scanners. When there is a fire or a break in these contractors show up in a van filled with plywood. As soon as the authorities allow them in they seal the building so no one can get inside. When the insurance company rep shows up they are happy to pay off the contractor because sealing the place prevents further damage.
I bet that van often happens to be parked right around the corner when a building catches fire.
Because it’s New York, yes that did happen at least once.
Inb4 this is some archaic law that says all booties washed ashore belong to the monarch or something
Man…I had no idea the monarchy was so into lathered up clean butts!
They still belong to the owner is the issue at hand, I believe. I.e. taking them would be theft.
The issue is that the owner is easily known.
Not really archaic - if this was valuable stuff washing up on shore, the law would still be relevant.
There exist an archaic law like that, but it doesn’t include all booties, only ‘Royal Fish’, and imho it would be a stretch to consider bananas as whales or sturgeons.
This case would be under maritime law. Iirc the cargo still belongs to the shipping company if it fell, but would be a ‘finders keepers’ if they threw it overboard. But I’m not a lawyer (sea lawyer?), I think this is for recoveries at sea, when it’s already on shore local laws might apply instead, idk…
OBJECTION! Bananas are the most regal of fish.
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Yup, that’s I meant. Thanks!
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Their source for it potentially being illegal comes from the daily heil so I would ignore it
As I wrote kn the other post, the daily mail is a shit rag that only publishes ragebait stuff.
Second, the authority in charge of recovery shipwrecked stuff that washes up later clarified that no, they are not going to be arrested.
People should stay away because the local authority needs to clear up, but if you take some and don’t impede operations it’s ok.
I have reported the post a) for misinformation b) for being from a source so unreliable Wikipedia has banned it c) from a source that is racist and supported the literal 20th century German Nazi party
I included your Guardian link as evidence of the misinformation
The upvote/downvote ratio is beyond recovery now so I encourage others to do the same.
Police, customs authorities, and the Receiver of Wrecks have warned beachcombers not to eat the bananas or to take them home
Why though, this is like the first question they should ask
One actual reason I can think of is they haven’t passed customs inspections. There’s a reason they ask you if you have any fruit or vegetables when crossing national borders, or even some state borders in the US: To prevent the spread of invasive pests. All there need to be is some Brazilian Screaming Mites on those bananas and no plants will ever grow on the island of Britain again.
That’s an actual decent reason instead of the usual fuck the poors ones
I have to assume the Daily Mail is taking the piss. The bananas are flotsam, and thus free for the taking unless the company asserts ownership. And why would the company, the bananas have negative value at this point. Anyone collecting them is doing the true owner a favor.
Back in the days in The Netherlands it used to be a hobby/profession called “strandjutter” which means “beachcomber”. But these days it is illegal to take stuff which washes up on the shores. It’s because it’s still considered someone else’s property, for the sake of cleanup responsibility, or it could be dangerous if it’s toxic or sharp for example. A washed up oil drum could contain nuclear waste or a dumped body, which would be an active crime scene and should stay undisturbed.
So when you think of why they introduces this it’s somewhat understandable they made this law. It’s just completely stupid when you look at it from a different perspective: it’s litter on the beach, why wouldn’t it be free to take. Sometimes people find arguments to push a law without thinking how insanely dumb it is. Most of the time it’s just pieces of wood and plastic, most beachcombers are artists using it for their art projects. Free litter cleanup. Doesn’t mean you can’t hold the shipping company responsible for littering.
Especially in this case, maybe the bananas are filled with cocain. That would be awesome!
Also if they still had a significant value and the owner would still like them a passerby claiming then seems injust to.me.
Like finding a wallet or phone on the streets. It’s not yours, you should bring it to the police. Sure. But finding a banana?
Why would the law make an explicit difference? If the value is sufficiently low and an owner cannot be located with appropriate effort, take it.
But if the bananas are filled with cocain, the value is significant. I would definitely still take it.
Highly doubt you’ll be prosecuted or even arrested. I could walk into a grocery store and grab a bunch of bananas and walk out right now and nobody would care, they just be like “that was weird”
The British people really would benefit from all collectively refusing to vote for their mainstream parties and instead voting for independent anarchist parties which try to get rid of as many laws and government institutions and also nationalize anything the people will be better served by, under collective ownership. All it really takes I think is to just talk to people. Tell them to stop voting for those parties and if they can’t resist then to stop watching the news media which fills their minds with anxiety.
While that specific scenario is unlikely, I do hope that Plaid Cymru and the Scottish National Party succeed in dissolving the UK
Laughs softly in spreading American corporate virus
instead voting for independent anarchist parties which try to get rid of as many laws and government institutions and also nationalize anything the people will be better served by, under collective ownership.
Once the laws are gone/things are deregulated, the corpos will likely take over. Nationalizing sounds good, but likely won’t end well without regulations, imo.
Nationalism is anticorporate if you do it correctly. I am by no mean a fascist, (I’m trans) and I have moderate views on immigration. Also you can just ban the stock market and the collective ownership of companies and also limit their limited liability and go to a hard, Inflation proof currency to plug up the other holes. Corporations cannot compete with small businesses without lobbying for lower tax rates then the working class and relying on low interest loans to buy assets and brands which artificially boost their value in the speculator markets. What I’m asking for is a real free market, where corporations and the people pay the exact same tax rate, so it’s fair for everyone. This alone would bring in a good bit more revenue for the state and also simply taxes by getting rid of the micro taxation and property taxes on single property owners and stuff.
Right now Blackstone is holding 60,000 properties in the U.S market, and somehow are paying little property tax on that while working class people who have seen their wages desitigrate over the past 20 years are paying 10s of thousands in property taxes in many cases.
We have the power to nationalize things like the real estate market through wise tax policy, if we choose and this would actually take a ton of pressure off the working class. Just that alone could free up hundreds of dollars/pounds per month for many workers. It could get the average age of buying a first home back down below retirement ages.
“if you do it correctly” holds a lot of weight to this argument. I’d be worried of anyone who wants to start from scratch, instead of building on the current foundation.
You make good points, though. I’m just more skeptical than you.
Fuck the bananas
I want the Cocaine washing up on the shores
I honestly feel like cocaine to a large extent is partially responsible for much of the world’s malignant narcissist billionaire evil rulers. And hence, you are not allowed to eat bananas. So maybe the world needs less cocaine, not more.
I prefer the theory of the bourgeois that has to live with his community and therefore has to care compared to wall communities and an apartment in dubai.
Naw, we just need equal access to cocaine. Level the playing field with subsidized cocaine I say!
Enrich tap water with cocaine
Universal basic coca
Make Coca-Cola Great Again!
Fuck the bananas
No, that’s also illegal.
Is it? Dang can’t fuck shit in the UK.
british government more protective of bananas arriving on shore than they are refugees
This government has arresting people for demonstrating against that government’s active support of the mass murdering of children in Gaza, so morally speaking, putting bananas ahead of people (even poor Brits who might actually need those free bananas) is nothing in comparison.
Sometimes I suspect that making sure people suffer is their whole point.
bananas have more rights and people in Britain apparently
Daily Mail propaganda worked I guess. They just warned people because they might not be safe to eat. The government never actually said they’d prosecute anyone it was just a warning.
Damn
Police, customs authorities, and the Receiver of Wrecks have warned beachcombers not to eat the bananas or to take them home.
This is the only mention in the linked article.
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People online don’t always seem to realise that the Daily Mail is considered THE worst newspaper publication, in the entire UK. It’s the sort of thing you wouldn’t pick up to line your floor for a new dog.
The Morning Star, which last I saw one had a 2 page spread: “STALIN DID NOTHING WRONG “.
I feel like the daily mail is worse. People know the star is full of shit, so don’t take it seriously. Whereas some people seem to have a perception of the daily mail that it’s somewhat reputable newspaper.
May I introduce you to the Daily Express
Please do not.
Receiver of Wrecks is a pretty metal title tho. If he’s telling me to do something I might listen
Anyone that eats the bananas they find on the beach won’t need the law to punish them
What’s the matter babe, you’ve barely touched your sea bananas!
Do you mean they’ll be in some way inedible by being submerged in sea water sorry?
Just rinse it well, I’m pretty sure you won’t have any problems.
