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I use Linux Mint. It’s very good for beginners. I don’t recommend Ubuntu.
I use Ubuntu its very good for beginners.
I use arch, btw.
Just kidding. I use Hannah Montana Linux, the only distro worth using.
What the fuck that’s actually a real thing.
…I love it
Hannah Montana Linux compiled itself in 1786 in Staffordshire, England.
I’ve heard that it’s got the best of both worlds.
After years of distro hopping, I always come back to Mint. It’s just a nice balance of everything, though I do tweak it with a bit of a custom setup using btrfs with LUKS and grub-btrfs so I can boot from automated Timeshift snapshots if I accidentally jack something up.
Ubuntu is the only distro that tends to work for me long-term
What’s wrong with Ubuntu? I used to use it as my default distro back in the 2010s and it was very beginner friendly.
What’s wrong with Ubuntu?
Canonical.
I used Ubuntu for a while until about 7-10 years ago when they started bogging down the interface. I moved to Mint because it was easy to not have to learn new stuff. Here is a list of some of the grievances:
Advertiements for Canonical in the OS.
The telemetry is consentual and optional, but it still gives Linux users a weird itch.
Snaps are the default packages, which is not completely FOSS. I use Fedora now, and flatpack is a similar tool, but it is less bloated, FOSS, decentralized, sandboxed by default, and asks you too update packages instead of automatically doing so. Snaps seem to be easier for maintainers and supposedly has better security. https://itsfoss.com/flatpak-vs-snap/
People were irritated with the Unity interface when it came out.
Also, it’s corporate and that bugs people.
Debian is upstream of Ubuntu and a bit more simple. Mint is downstream and includes many of the QOL fixes in Ubuntu without the above grievances.
OP is posting AI slop and plagiarizing other people’s work. Lead image seems a cyanide and happiness cartoon, but it’s a blatent ripoff, and they watermarked it with their own username to boot. And no communication out transparency around any of that as well
Same thing with Fediverse instances.
IMO the linux and/or fediverse community could learn a thing or two about UX from the establishment.
IMO the best approach is to take note of the Pareto Principle: 20% of instances / distros would meet the need of 80% of users.
I would simply just recommend Ubuntu / lemmy.world to complete beginners just based on market share. If they are interested in alternatives, they would naturally seek those out themselves.
This concept is nothing new e.g. Google presents their searchbar front and centre; power users would click on “Advance Search” for their needs.
I started mainlining Linux about a year and a half ago after playing with it for a bit in 2007-ish and running a headless server for a decade or so.
I just installed Ubuntu because that was what Framework officially supported. I can’t think of what a newbie user would find lacking with Ubuntu. It does about everything that Windows does fine. I’ve heard similar things about Mint. Why do we have to over-complicate things for new users? Just shove them towards a distro and let them know they can probably fix whatever they don’t like with a reinstall later.
If someone were to recommend me a distro with the GNOME desktop environment then I would not be a Linux for long. GNOME is weird and confusing. I am convinced that KDE Plasma, Cinnamon, LXDE and other more Windows-like desktops is better for a new Linux user. If they want an alternative desktop environment they can seek it out themselves.
a distro with the GNOME desktop environment
We would have lost a newbie by the end of this line.
I don’t think we are representative of the average user. For example, none of my family heard of these terms, or even care. They just want to browse the web, watch some Youtube videos, and that’s it.
That why they shouldn’t be recommended anything that has to do with GNOME. Just give them anything that closely resembles Windows.
I installed Linux Mint on my mom’s old laptop and on my stepmother’s aunt’s laptop as well. I have had 0 support calls since then! As you say, all they want to do is browse the web.
Accurate 😂 Best starter move: just pick Linux Mint (or Ubuntu) with Cinnamon, use it for a week, then distro-hop later if you still feel the itch.
do you want swap?
Multiple partitions or single. LLVM-managed or not. Block-level encrypted partitions or not. Do you want your swap on a dedicated partition, as a swap file, and do you want it to be encrypted?
If you decide that you want a multiple-partition installation and then let the installer do the partitioning, Debian’s installer still does a 100 MB
/bootpartition, which is woefully inadequate for present-day kernels as Debian packages them. 1 GB, maybe.
Choose one at random from those with easy installation. Use it for a week. If you like it, stick with it. If it’s frustrating as heck, try another distro. Your skills picked up from the first one will very likely transfer over. As you narrow down your experience with what’s frustrating you, you can pinpoint what things you like and which you don’t and settle on the perfect distro for you.
There is absolutely NO way to know that before you get your hands dirty and see what these options are and their quirks.
And that is the reason Linux will not go mainstream.
No average user wants to spend time distro hopping, they want a functioning computer that can do anything they want. A configure and forget.
So they will MUCH rather use Windows or Mac and be done with it than jump to hoops like you are proposing.
I suspect there’s a circular definition of “average user” lurking there.
“The first place to direct new users was to Linux From Scratch, so that they could determine whether they wanted to use a Linux distribution at all, or a more freeform approach.”
I started building my own kernel day 1 because I’m a techno masochist.
this:
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux,” and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
I really wish people could get together and just agree to recommend like 1 of 3 distros to people and put their personal y preferences aside.
Once people actually switch and use Linux for some time they can figure out what is actually best for them.
I say it should be,
Mint Kubuntu Maybe bazzite (I’ve never used it, but I’ve heard it’s popular for gaming.)
kubuntu and mint are basically the same, spare the desktop environment. I think something like Fedora, EndeavorOS plus CachyOS and Bazzite for gamers sounds more fair of a possible suggestion list. Unlike Mint, all of those have comprehensive wiki, Fedora and Bazzite for those preferring fixed release, and EOS and CachyOS for rolling-release.
Bazzite for gamers is a good suggestion, as is Fedora. I’ve found Fedora to be quite usable even if someone doesn’t know that much about tech. The setup is clear, the appstore doesn’t require any CLI or effort to install most apps someone will need, games can still run on it easily with basically no user modifications if you’re using Steam with Proton, the UI is easy to navigate for most former Windows or Mac users, etc.
Felt way better than Mint in terms of the out of box experience and just general design and usability imo.
I believe that people recommending Mint do so only because they once heard that it was a noob distro themselves. When i first switched to linux, i had lots of issues with it. I especially struggled with troubleshooting. EndeavorOS was my second, and it was perfect for me until i discovered CachyOS.
I believe that people recommending Mint do so only because they once heard that it was a noob distro themselves.
100% agreed. I tried it early on because I was told it was good for beginners, and stopped using it quite fast because it didn’t feel much like a “noob distro” at all aside from a few things being a little more user friendly right at the very start of the experience.
I still have to make the switch, have been keeping track of these topics a bit.
Right now, the shortlist I would make is:
- Bazzite (Easy to setup, preconfigured for gaming)
- Fedora (Good allrounder, well developed)
- Arch (For those who want full control and love to tinker)
I can’t recommend to a newcomer a distro that can potentially break or introduce bugs or vulnerabilities with software that’s too bleeding edge. That’s why I’ll never recommend Arch or even Fedora. And Bazzite is really too gaming focused and you can only install software through flatpaks. (I know there’s other ways, but we’re talking about newbies here. We need to keep it simple.)
I like Fedora plasma the best personally, but the gnome version requires configuration to just get a minimize button and it also needs rpm fusion configured and codecs installed.
That is why I don’t like to recommend this for a newbie.
Upvote for Fedora.
Only thing that matters is that you realize, none of it’s permanent. Getting your feet wet for a few weeks working from a live USB is okay too. Go as fast or as slow as you want. People get stuck on “The Paradox of Choice”.
Fucking it up is part of the fun
Not for the people who just want a working computer.
Not everyone wants OS hopping as a hobby
Downvote for Fedora
When it comes to distros, having something like a central website or something that contains up to date info on beginner friendly distrks probably wouldn’t be the worst. Like distrowatch, but specifically just for distros like Mint or Zorin or MX or whatever.
The problem is we’d need to get people on board and find a way to advertise it. The advertising might be the hard part since I hazard a guess that there’s nobody on the Fediverse that is big enough to reach the normal computer users. Just us fediversians or whatever we’re calling ourselves.
Maybe in your suggestion there, you could link it. https://distrowatch.com/
And maybe even a specific search link for beginner distros. https://distrowatch.com/search.php?ostype=All&category=Beginners&status=Active … helping reduce the list from hundreds to just 17.
Every opportunity.
I’m cozy on Cachy these days, but I always recommend the same two distros to new users.
Do you want to play games or are you not very technical? Bazzite.
Are you a Windows or Mac power user? Fedora KDE.
For any other situation, try Bazzite first and switch to Fedora KDE if Bazzite feels too restrictive.
When you start feeling comfortable with those, put Ventoy on a thumb drive and experiment.
I only recommend what I’m willing to support. Can’t recommend distros I would never use.
We had that consensus with Ubuntu for 15 years but haters had to hate so now we’re here. 😁
I am convinced that Ubuntu/GNOME is the main reason that Linux onboarding has taken so long and has been so slow.
I never knew KDE Plasma and other Windows-like desktop environments existed until Valve released the Steam Deck.
Kububtu (Ubuntu with KDE) has been an official Ubuntu flavour almost aince the beginning. During the Ubuntu consensus years, it was being promoted along with Ubuntu for every release.
Sure, but it hasn’t been well promoted by the community or by Canonical. Otherwise I would have seen it a long time ago.
Respectfully disagree. Have been following many Ubuntu releases over the years, Ubuntu blogs and news sites, and the official flavours have always been showcased, talked about, major features discussed and so on.
Also switching between flavours has always been trivial even post-installation. I used to test-drive KDE on Ubuntu installs and GNOME on Kubuntu installs in the 2000s and early 2010s.
Do you seriously expect new users to keep up with Ubuntu blogs, news sites and stuff like that? New users don’t even know what a flavor is. New users are not that involved in the eco system. Just because you have seen it that doesn’t mean it’s widely known.
This right here is one of the problems with old Linux users trying to recruit new users.
In 2012 when Ubuntu was the default choice, new users were instantly told what flavours are and what the three options were and why they should choose one over another. The info was also straight on Ubuntu.com where you downloaded the install media from. The problem you’re imagining did not exist.
E: Also I’m not trying to recruit new users. I’m having a discussion about the historical context of Ubuntu. I’ve successfully converted many laymen users to Ubuntu who still use it to this day. I’ve converted whole teams to Ubuntu professionally over the years too.
In the 00s, it was a different thing. KDE3, now forked as Trinity, seems much more solid and easy. Would be cool if more distros pushed it instead of the heavier more-fiddly KDE since KDE3.
I really love those haters who had to hate. ;D
that’s because even people who are using ubuntu for 15 years and don’t really care that much are finally fed up and starting to look for an alternative.
“get these security updates with ubuntu pro” is the ultimate wake-up call…
Ah yes, the 10-year corporate-grade security support for communiry packages provided for free to small users. I use it on the machines I haven’t converted to Debian yet. It’s great.
You’re not wrong.
But, what about Snaps? What’s your take on these?
In my opinion Snaps are superior in terms of design and functionality than Flatpak. In practice, there are many poorly implemented snap packages. There were annoying bugs with the snap system for a long time like the update/close app notification. There’s not enough features for holding snap updates. And there isn’t built-in support for multiple repos. I like Snap but there have been legitimate problems with it and the mindahare has shifted to Flatpak, which albeit inferior, fullfils most of the Snap use cases. In the end the social infrastructure is more important than the exact technology and that’s much stronger around Flatpak. I use both on Ubuntu and only Flatpak on Debian.
If it mattets, I’m a senior software guy who’s used Linux professionally for many use cases for 10-15 years. Been personally using Ubuntu since 2005. Am switching new machines to Debian because Canonical is planning to do IPO and enshittifaction would inevitably follow. Not because of Snap. 😅
That’s interesting. I kind of feel the same way. Snap seem great and have improved a bit. But it lacks certain controls that Flatpak has.
It also covers more than just desktop apps, you can install a lot of other software in sandboxes.
In my opinion Snaps are superior in terms of design and functionality than Flatpak.
You are now my enemy.
Snaps was one of the earlier enshittification indicators, and the point where I jumped ship.
I’ve been following Snap since it was called Click back in 2011-13 because it was solving a lot of problems that the classic, trusted package management had and still has. Problems that were elegantly solved on Android with the APK package and sandboxing system. That was pretty exciting so I might have a somewhat different perspective. :D
Not op, but I use Ubuntu because I will need a job at some point and want to use something relatively marketable.
Snaps are annoying, I tried to use them once for something and then have basically ignored them. They aren’t hugely core as something in windows would be.
i am on 22.04 lts, so should i really need ubuntu pro to get security updates and why is it forcing me to join?
Ubuntu basically used to be what Mint is now (although Gnome sucks). Mint shouldn’t need to exist.
This is not gonna happen.
I’ve now gone down this rabbit hole several times now and installed several of them many many times over now just figuring it all out and finally getting a stable setup which took a few months.
From my perspective after doing all of that : Chances are if you are not a developer, high end cgi artist, or specialized in tech, you might just need something safe like Ubuntu. At least just grab it to start. It gets you up and running, nice interface. Easy to use. Works for basic out of the box stuff making plex server, basic computing, house hold stuff. Could set it up for your technophobe friends and family and find it easy to just update and run. Big colorful app icons. Looks and works like an android phone for usability and easy to learn. Stuff even installs from a gui similar to how windows does.
You’d only go deep on something like fedora/nobara with some serious intentions with a high end computer where you just couldn’t reach some goals on Ubuntu. You just wouldn’t go to these ones if you didn’t have to. Those reasons also rhyme with kde plasma reasons/Developer reasons where in you absolutely need specialized software. And you have to be comfortable with swimming in the bios often.
If you don’t know and it sounds weird just googling it then just stick with Ubuntu.
I’ve talked to people in the Linux community gatekeeping hard on others who don’t even know about why someone would need kde plasma. So that should tell you everything you need to know about the fanboys. And I’ve taken heat from them only to have them breaking their own brain on the idea that people actually use computers for simulations or just use computers for anything other than what they would use a computer for.
so Take what they say with a giant truck of salt. Not even Mac users are as annoying as the some of Linux assholes I’ve met.
former solaris / irix / ubuntu user here who works in graphics. is there a particularly good distro suited for someone doing davinci resolve, blender, inkscape, godot etc ? desktop use specifically.
what properties in a desktop env and a distro should I seek and avoid?
Frankly, the right answer is that pretty much any non-specialized distribution (e.g. don’t use OpenWRT, a Linux distribution designed specifically for very small embedded devices) will probably work fine. That doesn’t mean that they all work the same way, but a lot of the differences are around things that honestly aren’t that big a deal for most potential end users. Basically, nobody has used more than at most a couple of the distros out there sufficiently to really come up to speed on their differences anyway. Most end users can adapt to a given packaging system, don’t care about the init system, are aren’t radically affected by mutablity/immutability, can get by with different update schedules, etc. In general, people tend to just recommend what they themselves use. The major Linux software packages out there are packaged for the major distros.
I linked to a timeline of Linux distros in this thread. My own recommendation is to use an established distro, one that has been around for some years (which, statistically, indicates that it’s got staying power; there are some flash-in-the-pan projects where people discover that doing a Linux distro is larger than they want).
I use Debian, myself. I could give a long list of justifications why, but honestly, it’s probably not worth your time. There are people who perfectly happily use Fedora or Ubuntu or Arch or Gentoo or Mint or whatever. A lot of the differences that most end users are going to see comes down to defaults — like, there are people in this thread fighting over distro because of their preferred desktop environment. Like, Debian can run KDE or GNOME or Cinnamon or XFCE or whatever, provides options as to default in the installer, and any of them (or multiple of them) can be added post-initial-installation. You wouldn’t say that a car is good or bad based on the setting of the thermostat as it comes from the dealer, like.
slow clap Half these posts are shitting all over Ubuntu. It’s fine for newbies.
Gate keeping Linux bros are seriously hilarious. It’s like silly No True Scotsman.
Fair point. Just remember that almost everyone that’s in the Linux Desktop space has formed a subjective opinion based on past experiences, and the popular hate for Ubuntu is there for a reason. Sometimes it’s a silly reason, sometimes it’s a valid reason.
Anyway, if I’m recommending a distribution for newbies it’s going to be (1) something KDE-based (or possibly LMDE if they’re a Mac convert) and (2) something as far away from Canonical’s shenanigans as possible.
It’s fine for newbies.
As someone who used it when he was a newbie: Gnome is fucking awful to learn - it’s so bloody alien, it’s not even funny.
I’m now using a distro with KDE and it feels just right.
The fanboying to the point of blinders is maddening to deal with among Linux users.
I don’t have issue with Ubuntu personally. I still prefer Zorin over it though. It’s a really nice “transition from windows” type distro and not as bloaty as Ubuntu.
The fanboying to the point of blinders is maddening to deal with among Linux users.
Alien who has arrived on Earth: “I’ve heard that you humans drive motor vehicles to get around. I should get a motor vehicle. Could someone tell me the best type to get?”
Human A: “You want a Prius.”
Human B: “No, that’s for tree-hugging, probably-homosexual hippies. You need a proper truck, a Ford.”
Human C: “Actually, Ford trucks are trash, what you need is a Chevy truck.”
Proceeds to use it exclusively for browsing the web.
Exactly 69 upvotes - as it should be.:-P
JFCLM
Just Fucking Choose Linux Mint.
Bazzite is good now and you don’t have to spend hours trying to install Nvidia drivers
in linux mint there is a buton, that says “driver installer” you press on it, select what version (choose the recommended one) then press install.
I did not know that! I was thinking about my issues on Debian and assumed Mint had a similar process
if you use LMDE is still a bit easier because the sources are already added, “sudo apt install nvidia-driver” and then use the envy control program to configure it properly.
lol no. Completely failed to run 90% of my games and had audio popping no matter what I did with pulsewire or whatever. If a noob encounters that they’re never using Linux again.
how long ago was that? what GPU? what kernel version?
is something odd
It was 6 months ago when I finally switched to Linux. I tested several distros. Zorin and Mint both had numerous, numerous problems.
Nvidia 3080. No clue what kernel version, just installed the default from the website (full install, not a live image).
hmmmm, back then mint did have quite an old kernel, but you could update it to a newer version trough the update manager, but now is not a problem beacuse in the new releases of LM 22 and LMDE 7, they ship with a fresh kernel.
Six months ago??? People were saying to use mint back then too, like every thread. I understand it’s completely based on your hardware but you can understand how it’s hard to trust anyone saying mint right? On the other hand CachyOS and Garuda both work really hard to make sure every hardware config works properly.
mint doesnt even offer kde, i dont see the point.
KDE’s still available in mint. They don’t strip it out of the repos. Just one install command away …
sudo apt install kde-fullright? (or clicky clicky through the gui package manager).You can absolutely do that.
But do be careful with
kde-fullif you’re running very old hardware. I’m talking about <4gb DDR3, CPUs from Obama’s first term etc.I’m not saying KDE’s “bloated”; I am still in absolute shock at how light it is compared to Windows.
But if you are dealing with hardware that needs a daily lethal dose of donepezil, opt for
kde-standard(Difficult lesson I learned)
still in absolute shock at how light it is compared to Windows
KDE’s still the bloatiest we have though.
Would be nice if Trinity (KDE3) were still ubiquitously available across all distros’ repos.
Or I suppose we could just strip alllll the bloat, and use something like IceWM for a classic “Windows” feel. (Or LXDE. XFCE (bit bloatier), or any of a dozen(+) other DE/WM following that model (panel & startmenu)).
If you know what KDE is you can make an informed choice. Mint is the recommendation for people who just want something easy to get started with.
this touches on my point exactly. i find that due to the “over recommendation” of mint/cinnamon, that many new people will inevitably “waste time” with cinnamon. this is a feeling i have that frustrates me, is all. KDE is exactly as easy to get started with as is cinnamon.
anyway cheers :)
Exactly. I never see people actually liking Cinnamon as a DE, but everyone keeps recommending Mint. It’s so frustrating, and perplexing.
If Mint would just treat KDE as first class like it used to, I would be inclined to recommend it more often. Not as often as Fedora KDE — which has always seemed to have the best hardware support of all major distros — but at least I wouldn’t feel the need to fight people for recommending Mint to new users. Blindly recommending something as clunky and outdated as Mint and Cinnamon to new Windows expats is a great way to earn Linux a bad reputation just as things are looking up.
quite refreshing to get some support on this opinion. cheers
Cinnamon >>>>>>> KDE, you can install KDE regardless, but cinnamon is plainly better IMO.
Why is it better? KDE has more features and first-class Wayland support. If I wanted an X11 DE, I would choose XFCE because of its general clean code and performance.
it comes to personal preference i guess, but i find KDE clunky at times and not that ergonomic, even when you customize it a bit, like adding centre spaces to put things in the panels.
Cinnamon feels polished and relatively simple while still being highly customizable.
You’re not wrong. I think there’s definitely room for some improvements.
And sometimes too many customizations can become confusing. I tend to keep everything vanilla to avoid things breaking, except for a few things. I installed a Win 10 theme and even a Win 10 style Tile start menu because I love the concept so much.
I know it’s controversial in a Linux community, but I absolutely LOVED the Windows 10 ergonomics. Square, flat, predictable, and your eyes can quickly pick up the necessary information and you can navigate faster with a mouse. Plus with the Powertoys that added the fancy zones feature, that was perfect. I get all of this in KDE.
is reasonable to say, that W10, specially years ago, was one of the good windows, specially with a debloater.
there were a lot of shit in the middle but yeah, Cinnamon feels like “what if the windows desktop was made with love and passion”.
wdym by ergonomic in this context, may i ask?
you get to develop muscle memory faster, configurations are easier to find, and things start simple and become complex when you need them to get complex instead of always be kinda complex.
Also, I hate dolphin, it is quite bad, you can’t open files with sudo directly, you have to navigate trough various menus to find the button for that, is also harder to read IMO.
i think i explained it poorly, but i mean you get the hang of things faster, and usually stuff is where is more convenient for for them to be.
I don’t hate KDE, if Cinnamon wasn’t a thing, i would go for it, but as things stands now, I prefer cinnamon.
hey right on, appreciate the thoughtful reply. i cant say i share the same experience, but now i understand where youre coming from.
side note, im new(ish) to lemmy and im really appreciating the quality of the takes im seeing on here. refreshing feeling, so cheers to adding to that.
They can try Kubuntu (or whatever) live whenever they’re ready. Beginners just need something that works with minimal configuration.
kubuntu is trash. you have to wait forever for kde updates and not everyone wants to use ubuntu / derivatives. it just seems like everyone is so stubborn and just says mint. tons of distros “just work” out of the box with minimal configuration, even some based on arch.
really i only have one opinion here that im strong on, and its that i feel cinnamon is a waste of time for many.
kubuntu is trash
That’s like… your opinion, man.
true
cant use gnome after realizing all the terrible usability choices/lack of customizability options is deliberate, people really will powertrip/gatekeep the weirdest shit
I think Zorin OS did a really good job at customizing Gnome to make it the way it should have been. As for limiting customizeability, I don’t think that’s necessarily bad. Sometimes I get overwhelmed by KDE’s customization options. Vanilla Gnome has too little. Zorin’s desktop is just right.
But that’s my opinion.
yeah i dont hate gnome users or even if i have to use gnome, but i do hate the conceptual approach to functionality they take, as you mention.
If you have recent hardware mint is not a good choice. Otherwise yes.
This is not true anymore.
Nah. I’m a gamer and need something with more up to date packages. I can’t rely on Debian / Ubuntu base.
Fedora and Arch base are my go to.
I’m a gamer too and i’m not sure what is about that, everything seems fine on the 6.12 kernel LMDE is on.
Ditto. Also a gamer on Linux Mint and never once had a problem.
bazzite?
I used Bazzite for a bit and I like the direction of the project. I’m still not happy with where Flatpak is and so I switched to CachyOS for now.
I’m using Kubuntu LTS and I’m gaming just fine.
I’ve been gaming on Debian (granted, with the backports kernel). What am I missing? Everything works and I’ve had zero issues.
Debian and Ubuntu get packages and kernels upwards of 6 months late. If you run newer hardware, you need the most up to date drivers/kernel. Fedora and Arch just offer more bleeding/cutting edge releases.
The present-day Linux kernel tree (not the Debian guys) actually has a target to build a Debian kernel package (
make bindeb-pkg) straight out of git if you want, so you can pretty readily get a packaged kernel out of the Linux kernel git repo, as long as you can come up with a viable build config for it (probably starting from a recent Debian kernel’s config). I have run off Debian-packaged kernels built that way before, if you want to play on the really bleeding edge.Yep, been gaming on Ubuntu for decades. Zero issue. Occasionally have to do a thing, but it’s Linux, so you know; everything is always do able.
maybe youve always been using 2 year or older hardware *shrug
Or maybe I just run the mainline kernel in the cases I need it.
If you know what you want then you’re not the person depicted in this comic.
choosing a linux distro can be hard for newcomers. that’s why i recommend going on distrowatch and picking a easy to use distro. i know it’s weird advice but thats how i wound up picking a linux distro and never looked back.
Just pick the yummiest option each time.
Mint.
Cinnamon.
LOL!
Imagine a new user confronted with ratpoison wm. XD XD XD
Computer defenestration ensues. XD
That adds the “which windowing system do you want to use” question and under the “Xorg” option, a “do you want to use a window manager without a desktop environment”, and then under “yes”, for the “Which window manager” question, you get Ratpoison as one of the options.
sure its fine and will do. but …millions of people waste time on cinnamon bc of this logic.
