President Donald Trump has said the U.S. will revisit its stance on Greenland in the coming weeks.

Asked if he expected to take action on the territory, Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One on Sunday: “Let’s talk about Venezuela, Russia, Ukraine. We’ll worry about Greenland in about two months. Let’s talk about Greenland in 20 days.”

He added: “We need Greenland from a national security situation. It’s so strategic.”

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        Not militarily. The EU can’t project force the way the US can. And if they didn’t instantly issue crippling sanctions against Russia’s aggression, right in their fucking backyard, they won’t do shit to the US.

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          A fatal flaw they should have learned of from watching China’s buildup of their navy and asking themselves “why do they need that,” but they assumed the US Navy would always be protecting their interests and not threatening them.

          It’s like people don’t learn from history or something.

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            Yeah Xi China (and putin) also uses this gunbloat diplomacy that trump’s using now, we should check how other asian countries handle it

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      Notice anything unusual?
      - Nah.

      Alt Text

      Two armed guards at entrance of medieval castle. EU flag at top of entrance. Two guests entering. Closeups of guards’ blank faces.
      Knight appears in the distance, Russian flag above head. Closeups of guards’ faces, staring blankly.
      Russian flag above knight’s head joined by Hungarian and Slovak flags. Closeups of guards’ faces, staring blankly.
      Flags joined by social media companies’ logos. Closeups of guards’ faces, staring blankly.
      Flags and logos joined by drones. Closeups of guards’ faces, staring blankly.
      Flags, logos, drones joined by USA flag. Knight slays 1st guard as 2nd guard looks on.
      Knight and 1st guard out of frame, EU flag torn in half. 2nd guard says: “Hey!”

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      Greenland is a goner, I’m afraid.
      Even worse, with mounting aggression from East and West, and our own right-wing parties handing our enemies the continent on a silver platter, Greenland’s fall is going to usher in a century of humiliation for Europe.

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    Let’s just all agree that Trump and Jeffrey Epstein didn’t know each other…

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      I’m concerned that anybody could think such spearheaded attacks could bring anything but chaos. I agree on Greenland, kidnapping a high value target with a flashy operation has nothing to do with conquest. Successful US dominance was based on diplomacy, imo Trump overrates military supremacy once deprived of diplomatic credibility.

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        I have thought for a long time that the chaos is the point. They’re not trying to do something strategically smart. They are trying to diminish the credibility of the US. They are corruptly manipulating US markets with big crazy moves as a means of transferring wealth to their friends while also trying to weaken the US.

        They started small to see what they could get away with and have been progressively getting more wild with the moves they make.

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          He’s destroying the US Dollar basically, passing it’s “power” to its own crypto-currencies. Yes, he’ll destroy the United States long term viability in the process, but hey…

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        I’m concerned that anybody could think such spearheaded attacks could bring anything but chaos.

        What about the last 9 years has suggested to you that he wants anything but chaos?

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      For one, Trump’s not thinking. You are ascribing thought and intentions to a man you and I would long ago have sent to the home were he our grandfather.

      His handlers put these ideas in his head and soon enough they’ll hand him invasion papers to sign. “Here are the orders you asked us to draw up.” That easy.

      Speaking of easy, taking Greenland will be all too easy. Europe didn’t respond appropriately to the Russian threat in its own backyard; they’re hardly going to cross the Pond to oust the strongest military mankind on Earth. Fuck me, the EU is still mumbling about further Russian sanctions, after years of this conflict.

      Stories like this are for preparing US citizens, and the world at large, for the coming reality.

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      Won’t it? Not like europe could stop it or we have to choose to go to war with them ig economically and …physically? depends on usa, but they will rather give it up than start a war I bet

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    A related question I have: Was the US ever (publicly) interested in “acquiring” Greenland before Trump? His comments are the first of the sort I ever noticed, but I could imagine the idea having a longer tradition.

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      They were literally offered Greenland by the Danish ambassodor during WWII, and could have kept it after the war, but chose to hand it back. So no, the purposes of the US with Greenland has been served perfectly fine with the previous diplomatic arrangements they have had.

      There is no sense to this other than Trump sees how big and beautiful it looks on a map in the same colour as the US territory.

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      Trump has flouted the idea in 2019 already, and there is some history. But just to be clear, the mere fact that the USA have expressed interest in Greenland one way or another over the centuries does of course not legitimize that interest! And afaics there’s nothing more to it. Just “interest” a.k.a. greed, expansionism, imperialism.

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        Thanks, very interesting. I think I had read about the US occupying Greenland during WWII (defensively), but not about the buy offers.

        And yes, obviously nothing legitimises these threats. I was just interested to see whether Trump came up with it or whether it has some history in US political circles, which it appears it does.

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      I remember George W Bush talking about buying Greenland from us back in the 2000s. We thought he was a crazy bastard but I actually miss Bush. He was the fun kind of incompetent.

      Before that there was a very embarrassing moment in time during the 50s where the US illegally used Greenland for nuclear experiments and left the nuclear waste on Greenland and pissed on us when our government tried to get them to take responsibility for the clean up. I see that as an invasion too, but it was kept hush hush for years. It’s still a problem now that the ice is melting.

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    “let’s talk about Russia, Ukraine, Venezuela, Colombia, Mexico, Canada. Also, where’s my fucking Nobel Peace Prize!? I’m the president of peace! I think we’re going to have to do something about Mr.Nobel as well.”

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      He added: “We need Greenland from a national security situation. It’s so strategic.”

      The US already has military bases on Greenland in accordance with diplomatic agreements. This isn’t about national security or defense strategy. If it were, there would be diplomatic ways to increase US military presence. This risks losing the diplomatic agreements which allow the US to maintain a military presence there. It won’t be very strategic if US forces get banished from the realm.

      This isn’t about national defense. It’s about natural resources. Trump wants to exploit Greenland for its rare minerals the same way he wants to exploit Venezuela for its crude oil.

      It’s so transparent.

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        Greenland is strategic, in addition to mineral extraction. The GOP base may deny global warming, but the powers behind the throne get it. As the Arctic thaws and opens year-round shipping lanes, Greenland becomes prime territory to control.

        As to bases, that’s a big chunk of land for our single base to cover. We’ll want several in key locations.

        Should not have been surprised over Venezuela, the US has been scheming on that oil for over two decades, but I’d be surprised if we don’t take Greenland, with no real pretense.

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      🤷

      Even his most coherent quotes contradict themselves, and he talks shit all day long. And the phrasing “Greenland deadline” is a little too evocative for my taste, but clickbait is a must these days.

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          Plus, it sound slike some decision will be made then, when all he said was “let’s talk about Greenland then”.

          At best, it’s a deadline for him and his advisors, not for Greenland. Which is ludicrous anyhow.

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            From what he actually said, it sounds like talks about a potential decision will begin then. That’s not at all what a deadline is.

            The way it was reported made it sound like a decision was already made, and actions would be taken by then. That’s not at all what he said though.

            There’s already plenty of legitimate reasons to criticize him, so I can’t stand when journalists distort things to make them seem even worse. It gives too much credence to the people defending him by framing all criticism as media spin.

            Things are already bad enough without reactionary sensationalism, so just focus on the facts without compromising journalistic integrity. Otherwise it’s just disinformation, which doesn’t help anyone. We’re supposed to be better than this.

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                Exactly, and that’s what the journalism should focus on. It detracts from the message when they give it a misleading spin. It’s already bad enough without the distortion of facts. That’s the point I’m trying to make.

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        yes, it’s not like actually already invaded a country and kidnapped its leader… I mean, stop exaggerating please

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          It sounds like it’s a deadline for Greenland, which sounds ominous, but really he just said “we’ll talk about it”. Damn I hate how the media sanewash Trump all the time. He’s babbling! Don’t report on it as if he said something of consequence.

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    Denmark and the US are both in NATO, and NATO already has Greenland.

    This is like Donald threatening Melania to steal her make up.

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    If its so strategic you could, Oh I don’t know…cooperate with Greenland and Denmark? You know, like normal world leaders?

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      Yeah, Denmark and the EU would happily let the US military do whatever they want/it needs to defend against Russia and China. This argument is bullshit, just like kidnapping Maduro because if drugs.

      If there is one single thing that is consistent, it is that US foreign politics aims at enriching the Trump clan and the US oligarchs. Under this premise, it all makes sense.

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        The US HAS a base in Greenland. Formerly Thule Air Base, now Pituffik Space Base belongs to the United States Space Force, (which Trump created) and used to station B-52 Bombers and shit like that to threaten the USSR during the cold war.

        Thing ist:

        The 1951 Greenland Defense Agreement allows the United States to operate the base under a NATO framework, as long as both Denmark and the United States remain NATO members.

        (Emphasis by me)

        I think Trump wants to leave NATO and keep this important base.

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      Or you know. Like the US has done before Trump. There are already US military bases and I‘m sure he could have built more and even extracted minerals for a fee. But nope it has to be his. Fuck everyone else, including the US by proxy.

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      The US is not Trump. There must be a bunch of strategists who think that cooperation is enough. The US billionaires would impeach Trump if the move would be stupid.

      So there is more to it. Crazy Trump is a deception.

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      hahahahaha referring to donald as normal … suggesting donald to cooperate … where have you been lately ? please start with 2025.

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      It is his typical “If I set a deadline sometime in the near future, then they will probably stop talking about it because they will have forgotten about it, just like I will have forgotten about it”. He did it with his healthcare plan, his plan for eradicating ISIS and so forth.

      I wish journalists would stop asking him about Greenland, because it only serves to remind him about it, and make him aware it is something which makes people talk about him, which really turns him on as a pathological narcissist. If they stopped asking him about it, he would stop talking about it and forget it in those 20 days to 2 months.

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        I wish journalists would stop asking him about Greenland, because it only serves to remind him about it

        Half right. The above blurb clearly states that he started talking about it:

        President Donald Trump has said the U.S. will revisit its stance on Greenland in the coming weeks.

        Asked if he expected to take action on the territory

        Yet the journalist couldn’t resist egging him on, and yeah, I resent that. He must be such an easy target for journalists: prod him, you always get a controversial quote. And that’s a big part of what got him into & keeps him in power.

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    We’ll worry about Greenland in about two months. Let’s talk about Greenland in 20 days.

    60 days = 20 days. Got it.

    We need Greenland from a national security situation. It’s so strategic.

    Much strategic. So situation.

    I’ve been regularly thinking about John Oliver’s segment on how this loon is undeniably, hilariously stupid, but that he’s equally dangerous, and the former often seriously undercuts the latter. He sounds like he’s having a stroke most of the time, sure, but I keep wondering how long it will take for leaders to figure out that they need to take his gibberish seriously. Maybe the latest abduction of a world leader will clue them in.

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    I wonder if they will deport everyone who will illegally enter the US on Greenland