• FRYD@sh.itjust.works
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    6 hours ago

    I think western the western design is a result of aiming for the most realistic look possible. It limits the amount of artistic expression and results in less immediately attractive characters.

    Eastern design is like 60% realistic 40% anime and that gives them enough room to create doll like characters that have exaggerated or unrealistic features that people naturally find attractive.

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      4 hours ago

      They don’t even get but bitched out by a customer who owed them debt, no representation for the greatest copper merchant.

      Note Ea-Nasir was owed money by Nani, which using other roughly contemporary documents the amount owed could’ve bought Ea-Nasir like 12 years of labor from a skilled team of mariners.

      Also Comic from Ratopamboarts because where else am I gonna post this.

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    19 hours ago

    The “western” ones here look more real. The “eastern” ones look fake to me. I definitely think this post is weird bait.

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      18 hours ago

      This is an (old) parody of an even older (allegedly sincere) meme comparing women in video games. The “ugly western” women were like Aloy from Horizon Zero Dawn, the ladies from the Last of Us 2, and I think new Lara Croft from the reboot series. The “beautiful and correct” eastern women were all anime characters with huge tits, obviously.

      The joke here is of course that all the “western” men are stereotypically masculine and all the “eastern” men are bishonen anime characters and femboys.

      I say it was “allegedly sincere” because how could you even tell if something like that is parody or a truly held chud belief?

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    19 hours ago

    Kenshiro consumed so much manliness from Japan that, even 40 years later, the country has not fully recovered. Their situation is so dire that not even Shinzo Abe telling men to procreate could keep the population from shrinking

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    19 hours ago

    The issue for me is that the character designs in western games are just ugly and bad designs. That doesn’t mean that all the characters have to be hot and sexy. You can have unconventionally attractive or even unattractive characters that are still appealing to look at because they are designed well. There is an art to a well designed character. Not a game reference, but a good example of a well designed and unattractive character in entertainment is Long John Silver in Treasure Planet. Nearly everything about his design is unsexy, but he is still appealing to look at because the character has soul, his design tells a story about him, his ambitions and the humanity he has, but tries to suppress. He has a recognizable silhouette, his color palette is earthy and warm, the contrast between the dark of his pirate hat + coat against the white of his shirt tells us that he is complicated, has both good and bad in him. Often when he hangs out with Jim alone, the dark hat and coat are nowhere to be seen and he’s mostly wearing white. His shape is round and soft, often a shape related to kind ans trustworthy characters. His hat and coat have sharp edges, the hat is literally a triangle, a shape that we subconsciously associate with danger. He is both a father figure, a safe person for Jim to lean on, but he’s also treacherous and dangerous. He is a cyborg, half machine, half doghuman or whatever hrs supposed to be haha. Warm and soft, and cold and mechanical. That is such a brilliant design for a character who is somewhat of an anti-hero.

    With some of the shit I have seen coming out of gaming in recent years, it’s not just that the characters are physically unattractive, it’s that the clothes and color palettes they have been settled with is as unappealing as possible as well. To the point where it’s nonsensical to look at. I don’t get a sense of the character’s history or personality when I look at many of these designs. It looks slapped together. Concord was a great example of ugly af designs that felt entirely void of personality and purpose. Colors were clashing, silhouettes were nonsensical and the clothes didn’t fit together at all and communicated nothing about the character to the player. They also all had the same mid value if you turned on the graycale. No contrast anywhere.

    I know people desperately want to perpetuate the narrative that gamers just hate these types of designs because they are stupid incels who want to wank to the characters in game, but that is and has always been an intellectually lazy argument used to dismiss fair criticism.

    You can have ugly characters that are well designed. Most of the ugly designs we see coming out of western gaming are barely designs. It is what happens when you press a randomizer button and purposefully look for the ugliest result as possible.

    I heard a theory that they do this on purpose to give players incentives to purchase better looking skins which would not surprise me in the slightest. The games industry has become so predatory and lazy in the past ten years that it honestly deserves to fail. The fact that they get to hide behind political correctness and blame the criticism from their customers on racism, sexism and whatever other ism is out there is nothing more than a pathetic deflection from the real issue. They treat their customers like brain dead consumers who should be shamed for demanding a better product and they use minority groups as a shield against valid criticism.

    It is pathetic. Even more pathetic that so many people are falling for this marketing tactic, that permeates almost all of the entertainment industry. It is shameful.

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        14 hours ago

        I think it’s a very interesting topic in general. Very frustrating too because the important discourse is always shut down by some people who have had too much ideological cool aid. It is a shame because at the end of the day, these companies are predatory toward all of us and should not be defended as fiercely as some people are. I just want entertainment at large to produce worth while art, be it books, movies, games etc. Good stories, great characters, well made art and so on. Stuff that can move people. ❤️