• tiramichu@sh.itjust.works
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    26 days ago

    Dolphin is nice, but Thunar is my fave.

    Thunar is a little more clunky, a little less modern in design, but it doesn’t hide things as much and I like that.

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      26 days ago

      Really? Been a minute since I used it, but dolphin has a lot of options. What options are hidden?

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        26 days ago

        People love complaining about some random obscure feature only they and 4 others use being “”“hidden”“” in Dolphin which usually just means it’s not a default button taking up half the UI, but can be added in ten seconds by using the toolbar customization features.

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      26 days ago

      kde connect works for you? none of my devices finds each other anymore, but they used to. thought they screwed something up in an update

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    26 days ago

    I think I know this meme template from somewhere, but I cannot quite recall from where. Could you give us a link to the original?

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    26 days ago

    Can recommend, Dolphin makes life on windows slightly more tolerable. Kate for Windows is also amazing

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    25 days ago

    Really? That’s awesome! Hold on, I need to go install it on my one PC that still runs windows.

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    26 days ago

    Just tried it but had a hard time adding my server as a network folder like I do on fedora

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      25 days ago

      Having had to set up a KDE install recently I really, really like Nautilus GUI better. A little less customizable/extensive but it’s so much cleaner.

      My only real beef is having like 3 separate areas for options. Hamburger menu, then the dots in the address bar, etc.

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        25 days ago

        Yeah I agree about the options fragmentation. But yes, exactly. KDE in general feels very messy visually and functionally to me.

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    26 days ago

    I know this is the wrong place to say this, but I really like the Windows Explorer. Dolphin is a good replacement, but it would be one of the few things I’d like to keep on Linux.

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      26 days ago

      The primary differences between Dolphin and Explorer are mainly in speed and the context menus for applications. (which is the reason explorer is more encumbered)

      Since I use context menus on my windows admin workstation, I wouldn’t want dolphin there and I sure as hell don’t want explorer in my NixOS.

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      26 days ago

      Seconded.

      There’s a lot of reasons to hate Microsoft. There’s a lot of reasons to hate Windows 11.

      Their explorer is’t one of them. The new context menus when you right click anywhere is, sure. But explorer and notepad got righteous upgrades.

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        26 days ago

        On the context menu: I’ve been using Nilesoft Shell for a few years now and it’s been wonderful. It’s got all the options from Windows 10 plus a few more in the Windows 11 style.

        Edit: wrong link, fixed

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      26 days ago

      If it wasn’t for the bugs I’d whole heartedly love windows 11s explorer over 10s.

      But if explorer stops responding me my interactions one more time I’m going to commit a crime.

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        26 days ago

        Okay, I’m generally on the side if dolphin UI-wise, but when it comes to the topic of lagginess, it has to be said that dolphin, and in fact, almost everything using the kio infrastructure, is the one shitting the bed here. You’d think a bit of multithreading will keep the UI from freezing up whenever the underlying I/O has some minor hiccup (which can absolutely happen in practice with network filesystems or USB sticks in combination with large file transfers), but apparently dolphin can’t do that.

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          26 days ago

          Admittedly I use an NVMe drive but I’ve never had this happen once in the years I’ve been using KDE. Dolphin is so much snappier than Windows Explorer on the same hardware that it’s almost funny.

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            26 days ago

            It lags for me whenever I access some filesystem that takes a while to respond. That could be a faulty or old device, or it could be an NFS share with multiple large file transfers going on in the background.

            It when I say it lags, I don’t mean it just takes a while to show me a directory’s content, I mean the entire UI freezes and kwin will grey out the window because tha application isn’t responding any more.

            This does not happen a lot, and if your file browsing is largely limited to a fast local storage, like a SATA SSD or even an NVMe, you may well never see this problem at all. But it does happen.

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      26 days ago

      I just updated to Windows 11 and oh boy has it gotten worse when compared to 10…

      The UI, useless spacing in between items, 2nd context menu, gigantic bars on top, the somehow missing create folder button, OneDrive Integration, “Pin to quick access” everywhere, freezing up when creating thumbnails, constantly somehow resetting the layout of the user home and I’m just getting started… But hey it got tabs now

      • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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        26 days ago

        Explorer on windows 11 has gotten better in a lot of ways and only worse in a few.

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            26 days ago

            Tabs? That’s pretty major.

            Also that right click menu is lighters faster than the old school menu. Every application and their mother wants to add shit to the right click menu and it would lag out to the point it would take 10 seconds to open. The new one doesn’t have that issue anymore.

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              26 days ago

              It still has the old annoying bug where the entire explorer.exe crashes if your mouse cursor gets anywhere near a network drive that can’t be reached. Accidentally hover over its icon in the left sidebar, and explorer just freezes up unrecoverably. I guess the technology to safely handle hovering over the icon of a disconnected drive is just not there yet.

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                26 days ago

                I have honestly no idea how microsoft still hasn’t fixed that issue. Granted I’ve never had it crash from waiting for a directory to respond, it just waits the full 1 minute for the packet to die before coming back.

                Also can’t say I’ve had it happen for stuff pinned to the side bar, only when typing it in, or clicking on a mapped directory on the “this pc”

            • bob_lemon@feddit.org
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              26 days ago

              Uh… The new one literally takes a couple of seconds to remember that OneDrive and Notepad++ exist when I use it on my work PC, all while entries towards the bottom keep shifting around.

              It’s completely unusable.

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                26 days ago

                Fast on my machine even with NP++. It did slow it down a smidge though when 4 things got added.

                Maybe it’s just OneDrive being a piece of shit? I don’t have it in my right click menu for some raisin.

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                  26 days ago

                  Might be, tbh. I never noticed it on my Surface, which has OneDrive disabled, but I used that one was less. Or maybe it’s some other garbage on the corporate laptop causing issues (like Trellix).

                  Now you made me want to investigate.

            • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
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              26 days ago

              Also that right click menu is lighters faster than the old school menu. Every application and their mother wants to add shit to the right click menu and it would lag out to the point it would take 10 seconds to open.

              if you don’t install all the garbage of the internet, that’s not a problem. it can also be cleaned up, even without regedit.

          • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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            26 days ago

            Split view, tabs, drag and drop to the addressbar. The ui looks cleaner compared to win 10.

            Negative is that one drive got even more embedded and they fucked up the right click menu.

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        26 days ago

        I was a win10 user because I was forced to update from 7. So I got really annoyed when I saw the new context menu for dumdums. It’s useless.

        If I ever need to install windows 11, either on a virtual machine or for a family member, I run a script that returns the old context menu (and several others that remove a bunch of bloat and de-activate internet search on the searchbar)

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          26 days ago

          Microsoft has been doing the most to break those. I was using PatchExplorer which has a lot of these features. Microsoft broke the ability to completely remove that awful, wasted space for “Recommended” in the Start Menu. It’s absolutely useless and an eyesore.

          But it at least still worked to revert the context menu to what it should be. I hate always having to figure out what icon is for copy/paste/delete than just having the damn word and also having to go to the old context for 7zip/other third party apps.

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            26 days ago

            Its because the recommended is literally ads. Microsoft is putting ads on the start menu. If that cant get someone to switch to Linux, nothing can

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              Yep, that’s exactly what I realized too and why they’re hellbent on it being there.

              I am no longer using Windows at home except a server I’m working on moving to Linux and it’s partly because of this. I’ve given up on Windows.

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          26 days ago

          I use Windows 10 with OpenShell so I can turn it into Windows 7. I definitely will never use windows 11 hahaha

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          Ohh not totally for dumdums. The design of the old context menu is one of Explorer’s greatest weaknesses.

          When you right click that menu, every context application DLL listed in the registry needs to load. So if you have an end user with a bunch of context apps. mp3tag, smartrename,scan for viruses or even worse some dll that needs a network resource to init. that context menu can take 5-10 seconds to load on an old encumbered system.

          9/10 they just want to right click and open with or rename, so there’s a cheap menu with no dll loading and an option to load them anyway.

          I feel you, I set my win11 desktop to show the old style too, but the idea behind it isn’t bad.

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            26 days ago

            Wouldn’t the better idea have been to load specific DLLs on activation of a function then? Dicking over users that know how to use their OS for the sake of digital slobs seems unfair.

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              25 days ago

              There’s a million different design problems in all of Windows. There’s probably a million better ways to fix the problem.

              I’m just saying that what they did isn’t without merit. And they did leave you the option to turn it off.

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        Microsoft messed up File Explorer tabs. If you make a new tab, start a search, the close the tab before the search finishes, you break the URL/path bar text. You cannot see what directory you are in unless you click the path bar. The only way to fix it is you restart the application.

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    26 days ago

    This might have been just a me issue.

    But I used to be a long time Total/Double Commander user on Windows Vista & 7. But sometime after I switched to Windows 10 it stopped letting me change the default file manager to anything other than explorer…

    I use the split panel feature in dolphin a lot. the shortcut is F3 if you didn’t know already.

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    25 days ago

    I don’t know how much of this is going on now, but in the early days, one could run a variety of linux apps in windows with the correct runtimes installed. this may be how WINE came about?

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      Was it cygwin, or something? I vaguely recall running an X server on Windows so I could display remote Linux gui apps locally.

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      Just FYI, WINE is for running MS Windows software on Linux, not Linux software on MS Windows^1. As others have mentioned, I think cygwin was sort of the reverse-WINE. Also, I think KDE made a push to get their apps running on MS Windows because QT was cross-platform.

      I was using WINE to play StarCraft back in like 2000. I think it predates running most Linux software on MS Windows, except for a few big, multi-platform packages like Firefox (back when it was still Netscape, then Mozilla Suite (don’t remember what it was called), then Phoenix, then Firebird (right? the same name as a database, so they had to change it, iirc). Those were usually developed for each platform specifically, not just for Linux and then run with an emulator.

      ^1: not trying to be snarky or anything. just put it in in case you didn’t know or maybe had a brain fart. Or maybe I’m wrong about the origins of WINE.

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    Great! Dolphin is also better than macOS Finder. I would replace it with Dolphin as well.

    However, Windows Explorer in Windows 11 still excels in one area: it doesn’t have a header, and the tabs are displayed on the header, like in Chromium.

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      Still excels? I don’t recall windows explorer ever being good at anything!

      You are saying you like the tabs in the header, so at the top. But Dolphin lets you split, which would make that not make as much sense.

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      However, Windows Explorer in Windows 11 still excels in one area: it doesn’t have a header, and the tabs are displayed on the header, like in Chromium.

      You can make literally any window of any program have no header with KDE. I’m pretty sure you can make Dolphin look exactly how you are describing.

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      the most recent version of Finder is… a bit weird. I like all of the tools and functions it has, but it’s a huge departure from the previous version of Finder, and I’m not a super-fan of some of the feature implementations. but, if you’re used to using Finder for a lot of work, you won’t feel too out-of-place.

      I haven’t used Dolphin in over a decade, so perhaps I’ll check it out.