It sounds like gog is pretty great, with their DRM free software.
I’m generally indifferent towards steam but I’m under the impression that they’ve contributed a lot to the recent developments in Linux gaming compatibility, and this has removed a pretty big hurdle for people who want to move away from windows, and I just think that’s swell.
They could try to offer a proper Linux Galaxy client, though. Especially since CP2077 locks some minor things behind being launched from Galaxy.
There will likely never be an official GOG Galaxy client for Linux, judging by the company’s utter disregard for Linux users. It was the most requested position on their community wish list, and they just removed it saying they have no plans on adding Linux support.
Well that sounds like a problem for Cyberpunk players, who I have no respect for
I’m playing Cyberpunk 2077 now for the first time and having a great time. Sincere question: why don’t you have respect for players?
CDPR’s business decisions around the game exploited their employees and socially conscious consumers. I don’t like white/green/pinkwashing and don’t like when people give money to companies that do it
Thanks. Finished doing research and reading more into this. As I understand it, CD Projekt Red (developer) promised no crunch time to employees, and then implemented it anyway for a period right before launch. Then did some mass layoffs after Cyberpunk launched while they struggled to right the ship and get the game in a stable state.
Never knew about this history which is sad, but I only grabbed the game since it was on sale a few weeks ago.
I do see some good happening there now. CD Projekt Red committed to no crunch time during the development of Phantom Liberty and offered it only as voluntary for employees, which was true and they met that commitment. They also stabilised the game. And finally the employees successfully unionised after the 2023 layoffs.
Small light at the end of the tunnel, but shameful practices with crunch time and abusing employees. No way in hell would I ever work 100 hours in a week for my job, severely and recklessly sacrificing my health and safety, even if it is “my dream job”. Companies need to delay their games by a few weeks rather than crunch their employees.
https://www.polygon.com/23909710/cd-projekt-red-union-layoffs/
They also said the game art with the massive gock was criticising corporations that fetishise trans bodies, and then they gave honorable mention in their cosplay contest to a cis woman who stuck a glowstick down her pants. CDPR is the corporation fetishising trans bodies
A fair point, although I wasn’t aware of much of it when I bought the game. I still play it because, well, the money’s already spent.
heroic game launcher?
That’s what I use but save syncing is still in beta and the absence of the (admittedly minor) Galaxy-exclusive stuff in CP2077 kinda irks me.
Keep in mind Heroic is completely third-party and lacks official support. So if a game you paid for stops working on your Linux system - you’ll receive no support and no refund.
There is some CP2077 content you only get through GoG Galaxy ?!?
It’s pretty minor (stuff like a t-shirt with the Galaxy logo on it) but it’s kind of annoying that it’s locked.
It’s a few cosmetics and some “pre-order” style weapons that are references to Witcher. Nothing substantial. There have been mods to unlock them without Galaxy since forever, and despite all the improvements, CP2077 still benefits greatly from some mods. You’re really shooting yourself in the foot playing vanilla.
Half or more of all the games Amazon gives away through Prime are actually just GOG keys. If you already have Prime for some reason or another, you should be redeeming those free GOG keys.
Amazon is doing what now? Well, I’ll be damned. That’s never been made apparent to me.
They have been doing it, quietly, for years and they have given away amazing titles too.
Is it only available in US? Im in Germany and it seems that it is not available for me.
Edit: Just checked. Couldn’t login though phone due to Amazon always willing to change location. But on PC worked out. Got Fallout New Vegas ultimate edition, xcom 2 and and civil III and IV for free. There were also some free games there but I’ll pass on these.
THAT SHIT IS EPIC! Thank this community to showing me these. Been Prime user for a long time and havent reedemed a single game until today :@
GOG does have its issues and controversies, but it’s still the only online gaming store with conditions I find acceptable. If the game is not available DRM Free, I don’t need to play it.
I would love to buy all my games from gog, but they lack steam’s regional pricing in my region, so most games are 4x the price on gog.
Git
gudrich/j (just in case)
They’re 4x the price, but you actually own them :)
If the worst should happen, I will sail the seas to reclaim my ownership.
When you don’t earn dollars, it’s a lot of money.
You try being happy about it when a game costs $240
Would a VPN to USA work?
If the issue is a lack of regional pricing, changing regions won’t have any impact.
TBH I’m too addicted to achievements to use GOG (AFAIK you can get achievements on GOG if you use their launcher, but it doesn’t work on Linux). I’m going to regret that later for sure …
I feel you.
Let’s stay in denial together 🫂
games should just make an in-game achievements checklist that coorsponds with what steam would have shown. that’s all steams in anyways, a checklist.
It’s more than a checklist though. You can see how many players got that achievement.
it’s a public checklist. majority of games, that doesn’t matter though.
There is a reimplementation of the Galaxy Communication Service that allows you to get achievements, leaderboards, etc.
Heroic Launcher has it bundeled automatically.
Heroic is so freaking… Well… Legendary. :D
I’ll buy when there’s a native linux client.
Until then, “arr, maties!”
…and no, I’m not having a morality discussion about piracy. I do it full-well knowing it’s wrong.
Just use Heroic. A native linux client would just be worse and proprietary.
Why do you desire a Linux client?
I myself don’t want to have to open an extra software from the distributor, just to play my game.
It might then end up adding extra constraints like not being able to open multiple games at the same time on your multi-monitor setup.For the same reason I wouldn’t want a Linux client on Windows. It’s not made for it.
Valve/Steam can do it. Is there some excuse or reason why it’s unacceptable?
And Steam is downloaded the same on nearly every distro. The package is just an install script that translates any differing filesystem layout between distros. It all comes from Valve.
I’m trying to say, “Why have a client in the first place?”
I keep GoG games and I am happy getting to keep the offline installers and not having to open an extra GUI thing before running my game.I would love being able to run my Steam games without having to open Steam.
Now maybe you see some value in Steam giving the Achievements system and notifications to online-friends about your activity, but is it really required?If your point is about using the GoG Linux client to run Windows games on Linux:
- Yes, it’s a big deal. Steam can do it, but GoG is much smaller
- Lutris
I don’t buy GoG games that don’t have a native Linux download and I use the Linux installer, so again, I see no merit in having yet another app.
I use heroic because I buy games that don’t have a native Linux version, and because some of the games I own are going to get updated. Also, cloud saves. Having a platform I can easily see and immediately install my purchases from is nice
Ah right, I had forgotten the cloud saves. Those are actually a real value addition to consider using an extra client.
For updates though, I am happy to just re-download the offline installer whenever it gets released.
Of course, I am not buying from GoG, the kinds of games that won’t work unless constantly updated.Do you really keep track of it? I have like 20-30 games installed, and they update in the background. I don’t have to think about it and just play whatever strikes my fancy.
Do you really keep track of it?
No, I just don’t update them. The offline installers don’t come up as often either.
Also, I only have ~5-10 GoG games.
That’s an odd thing to get hung up on. I buy more from Steam because the client is way nicer on Linux and they actually release interesting features for it. I could buy from GOG through Heroic, but they why should I expect them to properly support me on Linux when they don’t even bother to explicitly support Heroic (they do profit share, but that’s not quite the same), much less port Galaxy?
I personally don’t see piracy (i.e. boycotting) as a reasonable reaction here. It sounds more like you’re looking to justify piracy a deal looking for an excuse.
I’ll leave it there, but that’s my read here.
I love having to individually download all 50 parts to a game and write my own install script (the GOG experience on Linux).
How common is that? I have maybe 5 games from GOG and none of them are like this.
Lutris communicates with GoG through their API, which is heavily throttled for downloading games. CP2077 was going to take almost an entire day to install using Lutris alone.
Going to the website and downloading the pieces myself was much faster, but then of course I needed to manage the rest of the install.
Small games are fine since you won’t feel as much pain on the download step.
You- you what??? Why. Lutris. Just use lutris, holy shit.
Lutris downloads files from GoG using their API, which has heavily throttled download speeds. It was going to take 19 hours for CP2077 to download using Lutris.
Downloading the 50 pieces individually from GoG through the browser took under and hour, but was quite annoying.
If you don’t play any large games, you might not have noticed, but Lutris and GoG do not work very well together.
Maybe this was true five years ago, but with heroic I’ve never had any setup issues.
Heroic works pretty well.
I can second this.
There’s like 5 managers that support one click install on Linux. Why are you pretending to live in the stone age?
He likes it like that. Shit, he Loves it. Says so right off the bat. Just because this ain’t baseball doesn’t mean he’s not home.
Bro, I’ve got like 25 hours in the Final Fantasy Tactics Remaster, on my Steam Deck and laptop.
Yesterday, an update caused the game to launch with a black screen. So I tried a few different Proton versions, before I start getting a new error.
I take a look at the discussion board for the game on Steam… Fucking Denuvo considers each version of Proton to be a separate “activation” and it will only allow five BEFORE LOCKING YOU OUT OF THE GAME FOR 24 HOURS.
I have never really given a shit about Denuvo before, but this is so fucking infuriating. I paid for this game. I’ve already played 25 hours of this game. Now I can’t fucking play it?
Unbelievable. Denuvo is fucking trash, and I guess now I’m on it those people who avoids it.
Happened with the new DOOM too. I just wait for AAA games to remove DRM as a precaution.
Paid for your product like a little corpo slave bitch. Got what you deserved.
You dont own it unless you take it.
Fuck… So cool…
Its not fuvking cool. I wish i could just ask for shit and hand over points or whatever and get stuff by making stuff¹, but thats not the fucking shit-abyss dystopia we live in.
¹making stuff is the best! If you try to do it for points you will be fucked, and also it all gets stolen.
Oh no, I was talking about you
Great comment, thanks.
Only replying to this, bud:
Paid for your product like a little corpo slave bitch. Got what you deserved.
You shouldn’t have given those parasites money. That was bad.
Did I misunderstand what happened?
I mean act like a whiny bitch get made fun of like you’re a whiny bitch
I’m not whiny!
Thanks for the heads up, was going to get that for my wife to try. I’ll just spin up the ISO instead.
The game itself is outstanding (but I may be biased since the original is one of my favorite games of all time)
I agree. Said ISO is an image of the PS1 disc which is safely in its case :D.
I guess you were testing with multiple versions of Proton to see which one works the best? Otherwise, doesn’t make sense to have changed 5 versions in 25 hours.
If you were testing as such, the game publishers should be paying you for doing their job of quality testing.
I don’t think anyone read your last sentence lmao
Maybe they did and didn’t like that I used the technically incorrect term “quality testing”, instead of “performance testing”, which would be appropriate for this case.
Final Fantasy Tactics Remaster has fucking denuvo in it? What the fuck? Does it have multiplayer or something?
I know. Not that I’m aware of, no.
DRM is never for the benefit of the consumers.
Know your enemy
At least you’re warned about the bullshit requirements for a particular game.
Reminds me of what fdroid and aurora-store do, warning the users of potential “disgusting” features. That’s respect for its users
I like that fdroid is “this doesn’t meet what our users expect from our service, here’s why, and here it is anyway if you want cancer”
And most of the time, it’s pretty palatable cancer too. It turns out most don’t bother uploading to FDroid if their app is truly bad.
We always knew that battlefield would be like that. It’s an EA product after all.
I’m genuinely amazed it doesn’t have day one microtransactions, maybe that’s going later.
There will be a season one battle pass with skins, but the guns, maps, etc. will be free.
Do you think Dice have something on an EA CEO, or maybe they think this won’t do well after 2048 or whatever it was called.
It used to be even worse. In 2042, you had to install the EA app.
EA
Yeah, don’t need to read further. I just avoid their crap on reflex.
Requires TPM 2.0? Wtf??
Tense Penile Member 2.0. Some refer to it as a rock hard dick.
I read that in Matt Barry’s voice and so should you
Why does a game need a tpm
According to EA
Requiring Secure Boot provides us with features that we can leverage against cheats that attempt to infiltrate during the Windows boot process. It also lets the Battlefield Positive Play team use its own features and related dependent security features like TPM to combat other forms of cheating, the most relevant of which include:
- Kernel-Level Cheats and Rootkits
- Memory Manipulation and Injection
- Spoofing and Hardware ID Manipulation
- Virtual Machines and Emulation
- Tampering with Anti-Cheat Systems
It feels very anti-linux, and I don’t like it, but with a good number of hours in BF6 so far, I have yet to run into an obvious cheater so maybe it works.
The problem isn’t even software running on the host machine anymore. Cheaters have long since moved to using a different machine running ocr software and handling input, then it just sends mouse and keyboard inputs based on what it sees. It’s all of the advantage of esp hacks and aimbots of yore, all while being 100% undetectable as all the game sees is generic peripherals and no code other than legit code running on the main machine.
Yeah, losing the ability to run games in a VM adds a bit of complexity to the setup, but you can still plug a capture card into a raspberry pi and let it do the aiming/firing and just look like an l33t gam3r in the stats.
None of this even touches on DMA hacks that read host memory over a bus like PCIe, but that’s getting into some complexity far and above the average cheating kid. Unfortunately plugging in a couple cables and flashing an SD card is pretty trivial for someone wanting to get more headshots.
That sounds like the anti-cheat is working then. The entire point is increasing the barrier of entry to cheating.
It didn’t though, those types of hacks have been around forever. It’s how people cheat on consoles without risking bans for modded lobbies and trainers.
I want to be clear, the cheats are just as easy as they have always been to use, particularly if you throw money at them. These kernel modules and invasive anti-cheat mechanisms are far more effective at exfiltrating data and destroying privacy than they are at preventing aimbots.
They even game me a refund after I bought KOTOR 1 without realising it was an EA game, saying I wanted to get a refund because I was boycotting EA.
I did comply with the less than an hour playtime for refunds, so they might have given it regardless, but it’s nice to know they accept refunds labelled as boycotts.
Seriously. I pretty much only buy things off GoG nowadays. I can back it up to my own storage, and take it wherever I want. High-five to GoG.
I’ve only bought one game from GOG. It was Morrowind and I’m playing via OpenMW. Good experience over all. Though I didn’t use the installer or the executable that came with the game.
I really want to see more FOSS reimplementations of game engines come into existence. Wine is fine and all, but I’d much rather have a native FOSS engine.
That reminds me that Morrowind is currently discounted in GOG and I’ve been meaning to buy it and play it via OpenMW ever since I heard about the latter …
GOG is awesome!
Gog is awesome? But it has a game launcher now i have to use if I wanna play homeworld cataclysm.
I own ~670 games on GOG and lease 292 on Steam.
I’ve played maybe five of my GOG games to completion. I’m a gamer, dammit!
“and lease on steam”
This hurts to read considering my hundreds of games on steam 🥲 I want to stay in denial and pray for no enshittification
It could happen to Steam one day. Definitely not any time soon. But as the company grows and ownership changes, there is the risk they could go public and IPO. After that point, it’s all downhill from there. However at this point in time and based on their history, GOG and Steam are both excellent platforms to do business with.
I didn’t start using GOG until I got a slap in the face with reality that I don’t own my games. I was ignorant and complacent back in the day when App Store purchases on Apple’s platform disappeared or I couldn’t download them again. “That sucks. Oh well. Damn.” is what I used to always say to myself over a decade ago. Funny that it took a beloved game - parts of it anyway - to where it finally sunk in how important digital ownership is.
Ubisoft is the company that taught me this valuable lesson. In August 2022, Ubisoft announced they would shut down legacy activation servers for their old single player games - https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/help/gameplay/article/decommissioning-of-online-services-september-2022/000102396. While multiplayer would disappear and was accepted (running online PvP servers for very old games doesn’t make financial sense), the termination of these servers would also mean that my DLC would disappear. I was a day one owner of Splinter Cell: Blacklist on Wii U, and I spent my hard-earned money buying all the content for it back in 2012. Ubisoft was going to take away parts of my video game on a physical disc sitting on my shelf, because if I tried to run the game and install the DLC, the console would make a call to an activation server that no longer existed and preclude me from accessing my paid for content. Now, all those video games sitting on my shelf from multiple console generations suddenly looked less permanent. How many of those single player games required online functionality to work? I always (and still today) buy cartridges and discs where possible because I believe physical copies are superior. Splinter Cell I purchased at least three times because I loved that game - on Wii U, on Uplay, and then on Steam. In 2022, Ubisoft shut down those activation servers and they took my purchases away from me forever. Now, I can only play parts of the game that I paid for. And Ubisoft doesn’t get my money any more (although they haven’t been for a long time since they keep release middling games).
Since that day, I learned a valuable lesson and have since directed most of my game purchases to GOG, where my GOG library has significantly skyrocketed past my Steam library.
P.S. - To this day, I still email Supergiant annually to beg them to release Hades on GOG, and show them the growing interest for their game in GOG’s Dreamlist: https://www.gog.com/dreamlist/game/hades-2020
Thanks for sharing your story ♥️
It’s like Pokemon. Collecting is the game.
No regional pricing though. GOG is outrageously expensive in my country compared to steam.
Regional pricing is usually set up by the developer. Contact the developer of your favourite games and they may consider regional pricing, provided GoG allows them.
The site itself only accepts a limited amount of currencies, it’s even missing a few of the worlds most major ones. I think it’s most likely a limitation on GoGs side.
