Tell me there are no women in your life without saying there are no women in your life.
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Oh cool, GFR has finally gone mask-off.
This has always been the case, but I’m going to take this opportunity to state that links to that site are not allowed here, and will be removed on sight.
Allowing this to stay up but not linking to it seems wrong. I don’t know anything about this site other than the headline but if you disagree that strongly, which seems to be the right reaction, you should ban the headlines too.
Noted?
Oh, you’re that type of person. Ok, noted.
More republicans making lists. Noted.
Check again
don’t like it, then leave, I guess?
that’s what a normal person would do.
Thankfully I’m not normal so I added a message to explain to others who are out of the loop wtf is happening, something op should have done but failed to do
https://vger.to/lemmy.myserv.one/comment/16646604
Oh look, you already responded to it.
@ValueSubtracted Thanks for the reminder. Yeah, I would never link because eww, but a screenshot for general pointing-and-laughing was just too tempting.
Hell yeah. I love the way Trek makes people like this piss and squeal and moan.
What an incredibly stupid take by these jeenyuses.
Then again there’s precedence with a moron from Fox ‘News’ who prefers Trek to Wars since it’s ‘not woke’.
As someone who has gone to conventions this is laughably false.
Pretty sure the fujoshis own Trek actually.
How do I find the link to the text?
Edit: apparently posting an image is ok by mods but linking isn’t, weird.
If anyone is curious since the comments on the message didn’t really make sense (headline is about republicans not women, where did the no women in your life comment come from?):
The author is asserting women don’t like star trek with zero data. The republicans part is unrelated, and is about young men skewing more conservative than women. You combine the baseless claim with unrelated data and you get the headline.
Republicans think women are animals. otherwise why would they want to strip away their human rights like access to abortion clinics and revoke their rights to vote? (no need to answer we all know why)
if they don’t hate women, Republicans have a really fucked up view of the equality that Trek embodies from start to finish.
That’s all well and good, I was wondering about this specific headline not the general problem with conservatives.
Most trekkies are older people, in the US most of them are Republicans.
most old americans may be republican but not most old trekkies are not.
Education has been bad for a long time in this country it seems
USA Defaultism at work yet again.
In fairness, it is an American show.
Its somewhat justifiable, kinda.
a hopeful future. dystopian futures have plenty of republicans.
Nice
What i know is this… gay aliens are acceptable, guy humans are not. Thats it in a nutshell, but it does get very complicated. Two simbiot women human kissing? Its ok because they are technically alien, but also ok because they are women, not men.
That brings me to the new gay doctor. It isnt commentary on weird alien sexual stuff, no, it comes off as a political statement. It doesn’t add to any space/alien stuff, rather it feels like an agenda being pushed… im not trying to offend anyone. My personal opinion? It feels like it wants to push a narrative, im not into the star trek hardly at all anymore.
TOS, TNG, voyager and like half of DS9 is how I like star wars. The new crap is only that, crap… imo…
If you want to push the straight agenda, you have Hallmark movies.
Gay humans exist today, they existed throughout history, and they will continue to exist for as long as humans do.
Do you consider Uhura being a bridge officer to be “pushing a narrative”? Because that was a political statement in much the same way that gay characters in Star Trek are (arguably more so).
It sucks to be a person whose very existence is political in this world that we live in now. Sci-Fi that includes those people is a way of saying "hey, wouldn’t it be nice if people could live their lives without their existence being the battleground for political ideology.
I’m begging you all, please report stuff that breaks the community rules and/or TOS - no one needs to put up with that nonsense.
I don’t know a single conservative that likes Trek.
I do, they just think it’s an unrealistic world, not a bad one. Something that could never happen here.
… … Wat? Is this based on Star Trek fans despising NuTrek? Because that has to do with shit writing and shitting on continuity…
Nah, it’s just your typical conservative with zero media literacy not understanding Star Trek and thinking no one else does either.
As a mental exercise I like to perceive Star Trek as a racist propaganda show.
Star Trek can be seen as the way, a fascist empire wants to be perceived. The whites are in control but benevolent. Minority groups have their token share of roles but they never threaten the control of the whites.
The visible people are mostly white and never have a brown, black and Asian percentage that could be expected from a united earth.
The organisation is hierarchical. A militarized society would be the solution to overcome all conflicts.
It is clear that the casting was needed to gain market share in the US but that also means that the show can trigger nostalgica in those who want to continue those proportions.
Part of the reason the show works is that we never really see Federation life outside of Starfleet. Mostly this is for practical budget reasons; what does a post-scarcity egalitarian society actually look like? That’s difficult to depict in a show designed to recycle the same set every episode and only very occasionally go outside to film.
So what little we see of the civilian federation looks… a lot like the US. There’s a president. Member
statesplanets. Constant references to US history. A military that operates how Americans like to think their military works, rather than what it actually historically has done.Newer shows take this even further. Section 31, as it was first introduced, was supposed to be a highly illegal, unsanctioned conspiracy acting in the shadow of the proper Federation. Now they’re presented as the ultra official, coolest badasses who are the only reason any of the egalitarian principals are able to survive.
Tell me you know nothing about Star Trek without telling me.
ST broke so many cultural barriers, nothing else in its time period even comes close. Other than that they wore uniforms almost nothing is militaristic. It was a science vessel not a warship. Money and capitalism were virtually non-existent and when they did show up, they were ridiculed. I could go on, but you should learn for yourself.
You may need to cool off and re read the entire message
I agree with all you said, I just can’t believe it is possible for conservative viewers of the show to be blindered to the numerous, numerous ways where the show morals, both implied and very much stated, are antithetical to the entire value structure of the modern right-wing of the USA.
But then again, when I think of the Trek fans I know in real life, it is surprising how many of them are Republicans. Not a majority, but enough. So they might just be overlooking the things they don’t agree with.
They probably saw it all and said “yeah, even in the future we’ll never be rid of the libs but see it all works out because all these other things are still true”
Because Republicans are dumb illiterate inbred morons. Like how they didn’t get that Colbert Report was satire and they thought Colbert was a conservative. Or that they thought that South Park was Republican humor because of Cartman. Even though Cartman is obviously just a vehicle to portray how fucked up RepubliKKKans are.
Lead hits hard.
This is the stupidest fucking thing I’ve ever read in my life.
I like older trek because the writing was interesting and sometimes cerebral. I have no qualms with LGBT characters, I have a problem with shitty written plot and characters. Take the show away from paramount, hire the best writers you can who care some about continuity of the star trek universe and you’d have an almost guaranteed viral franchise.
continuity of the star trek universe
Actually I think this is a fairly low priority if you want to gather more viewers.
Bring back the DS9 writers if they are willing, also fuck Rick Berman.
And the setting, while they’re at it!
Imagine what they could do with Changeling crewmates, mixed with a Picard style Android and maybe the Gamma Quadrant. They’d be perfect vehicles to explore more modern issues (trans stuff/AI, for instance. Maybe neurodivergence?) in a Star Trek coat of paint.
Yeah, sure. As long as Fox doesn’t broadcast the first episode last and confuse the fuck out of all the watchers. Of course, the last bit that explains everything that no one lasts long enough to see.
You might be able to make some comic and novels for those rare fans. To get that understanding how everyone got there from earth if some jackass sabatours don’t persuade everyone on Reddit that your comics suck. Probably the same Alliance that flexxed Fox to do what they did in the beginning.
Maybe they make some board games too. Or hitch your actors to flip their character rep skill with the the Giggle and make a Horrible Sing-a-Long Blog.
Oddly specific ranting, browncoat.
Took the opportunity.
I could drop all the acid in the world and still not come up with a take this fucking deranged.
@don Toxic masculinity is a helluva drug.
…Masculinity? This is bog standard “conformist imagining a we to be a part of”. It’s why the “moral majority” thing had the impact it did.
