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I’m sure there’s other “old” people here that never stopped sailing the seas. I started to use a computer in the mid 90ies and internet a few years later. From the start, there has been attempts at streaming. I remember using RealPlayer trying to stream some video while on dial-up, only to be just a bunch of pixels in a very tiny window. So you downloaded everything, and kept it because you didn’t want to spend 45 minutes to download the very same song once again.
And I never stopped this practise. I still have my MP3 collection that I started 25 years ago. I still have .rm files from movies that I captured myself. I can’t believe how much bandwidth we just waste on streaming stuff again and again.
Once, the zoomer trying to sell my a data plan for my phone couldn’t believe I didn’t need more than a few gigs a month. No, I don’t stream music. No, I don’t stream movies nor series. I download them once, store them, and enjoy them whenever I want. No censored episodes, no missing episodes, no ads, just the content.
Although I do buy some of my MP3s now if possible. If I can straight up pay to download MP3 files, like on Bandcamp, I will. I wish we could do the same for series and movies, but since we’re absolutely not there, I’ll just continue to sail the seas and fill up my hard drives.
I watched my first anime, Tenchi Muyo, by streaming it on Real Player at like 90p.
and fill up my hard drives.
This is the real cost of your method. Luckily hard drive costs halve every 2 years or so.
hard drive costs halve every 2 years or so.
Where did you get halves from? Maybe if you’re buying refurb/low-cap/shuck-drives on sale…? Not even the 2 year price projections (which are usually extremely optimistic) are anywhere near halving for higher-cap drives.
Even now, the only thing you’d get even nearing the optimal $10/TB mark would be a shuck-drive on sale as far as I can tell. Whereas the cheapest non-shuck is like $12.50/TB, but you’ll most likely be wasting tons of time RMAing it within a year anyways because it’s Sea*ate 🤢
Halving every 2 years was an eyeball value.
oh man I used to have (way long ago, the statue of limitations has crumbled) the most extensive collection of early simpsons. then my family started buying me plastic simpson head collections for birthdays and holidays, so I stopped downloading. still have a great collection.
now instead my hard drive is filled with so much music. more music than games, which my wife refuses to believe (but half of it is hers).
and we have an entire cd collection, and vinyl collection to rip if I ever get bored.
there was this old blues program on the local npr station that I’d listen to religiously in high school. I was trying to learn sax. I kind of did, but I’ve got a stack of those tapes taller than me. I just right now found out the guy who ran the program died last month so I’m trying to dig out a cassette deck. here’s a song i got off his program.
use libraries! they are great.
Casual reminder, Sony and Intel tried to tether Blu-ray discs to SGX DRM, which was killed just a few years after they introduced the standard, rendering all of your SGX DRM Blu-rays unplayable on PC. They disabled it so quickly, because people could use Intel SGX DRM for remote code execution in your machine, below the operating system and kernel level.
Also, if you have one of the CPUs which still has SGX DRM, congratulations, you have a hardware Trojan! Digital restrictions management is a cancer because look at what it does in reality, vs. what they say. Who came up with this?
I am freshly into selfhosting and am running Beelink s12 pro with Jellyfin on. Ripped tons of DVDs and about to get blu ray drive for ripping. Never paid a cent to Netflix or any other streaming sites. Dunno why my wife pays entry subscription to Netflix. Cant watch FHD or higher, got ads, cant mirror screen to a TV with entry subscription, no choice in what movies to watch, shows from competitors are not on netflix. Fuck this shit, man. I pay for DVDs and blurays anyday as long as I can chose what to watch and to keep it to myself.
Got recently raspberry pi 3. Planning to setup private VPN in my homeland where pirating is not an issue yet.
I went back to physical media half a year ago. Fuck streaming. I don’t miss that shit. My local library has tons of dvds and blurays so my household gets to experience many interesting films these days.
I don’t miss physical media either tho. I always hated that they force you to watch an anti piracy ad on a disc you bought, and force feed you trailers. Just let me see the movie i paid for.
I mean, you can just skip the trailers and not every disc has the piracy ad. At least that is not my experience! Out of all the dvds I own or have borrowed from the library, only a handful of them have the unskippable piracy ad. In fact, I have experienced a lot of dvds that don’t even have ads and just skip straight to the menu. Those rarely have extra material either. Only language options and a play button. Seems to mostly be a thing with modern dvd movies.
Most dvds/blu-rays either let you skip those or just open up to the title menu at this point…
I thought the same, so I bought some Blu-rays and DVDs. DVDs are fine as long as you’re okay with the quality. Blu-rays have DRM though, which in Linux feels like you’re pirating even when playing legit content
I don’t know if that changes by know, but some years back when I was looking trying to play a Blu-ray (got for birthday) and there was no legal way to play it on Linux. It was so frustrating to tinker with that I ended up downloading the movie and put the disc on top of the PC, just to pretend.
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You got it backwards. The Sith are the corpos and the resistance is piracy.
I’m not really sure what you mean. Yoda is responding to Obi-Wan who had just said “That boy is our last hope”. Yoda was referring to the fact that there is another Skywalker (Leia). So in this context, Luke would be physical media, Leia would be piracy, and the streaming services would be the Sith/Empire.
Yohohoho
Luckily I saved all of my blu-rays. And, bonus: they’re all good movies from before Disney went to shit
That must mean you have the original Lilo & Stitch.
Excellent.
Wait, did they mess with lilo and stitch?
The live-action redo is terribly tropified and shockingly bad in comparison.
No you can still watch it, it hasn’t been altered or removed…but they have also made a live action lilo & stitch, but watching it is optional so who the fuck cares.
That one is on DVD, actually
you got Blu Rays from before Steamboat Willy?
Wow… an OG Disney fan…
We’re fast approaching a time where owning media is considered a luxury.
where owning media is considered a luxury.
Much more likely that it will simply be impossible to legally own any media.
Back when people bought analog media, I don’t know if it was fully spelled out what you did and didn’t actually own. Obviously you didn’t own the copyright to whatever it is you were buying. But, you did own the physical item. What rights were transferred to you when you bought the record in the record store? Probably an unlimited right to play the record at home, but not the right to play it in a dance club. I wonder if the “copyright license” was ever actually spelled out though.
In the digital era there is no longer any physical item to own, and since you never did own the “information” encoded into the physical medium, ownership of digital files is already on shaky ground. In the past you could buy MP3s, and these days it’s still occasionally possible to buy DRM-free e-books. But I wouldn’t be surprised if in the future just having media stored locally will be presumed to be illegal.
Only if you pay for them 🏴☠️
If companies are allowed unlicensed access (AI training) to media en masse I don’t see a reason everyone else shouldn’t have that either.
We’re running out of safe havens to host, I feel. Countries that won’t submit to the industry’s will. With the additional clamping down on material not government-sanctioned recently, with invasive biometric and ID checks, it certainly feels like the wrong direction.
Host? Sounds like a problem I’m too “several large HDDs” to understand.
And, pray tell, where does the material on your hdds come from? Would it happen to be peers kind enough to host the material for your consumption?
I wonder how tough it would be for someone to start a DVD cottage industry, replicating the old Netflix model, where you mail hard copies of pirated movies upon request? I already order hard copies of movies from Amazon if I know I want them in my collection permanently, but damn, sometimes those are pricey as hell
They tried to kill piracy so many times, and it never worked.
They will try again and fail again. And the best of it is that sales won’t go up anyway because the problem is not piracy, is their own greed.
If they somehow manage to completely kill piracy, I won’t be able to pay for every streaming service anyway because I don’t have the time to enjoy them all nor I think they are worth my money at all.
I already have more media than I could watch in a lifetime on a home server, if we lose new media I can happily enjoy the old stuff for decades to come
Even if the internet dies.
Sneaker net was here before . And will be here afterwards…
We’ll just start doing what we did before the internet: go to each other homes and copy from their source.
I agree - if they stop piracy, i will start selling copies of my stash for the cost of the Hdds to clone to and the time it took me to copy the files, under the pretense that they do the same for others. free delivery!
hmmm somewhat of an offline torrent lol
Someone will figure out a way to allow micro-transactions where you pay a small fee to piggyback on existing subscriptions, so you don’t have to pay for everything, you can just drop three bucks to use part of an account that a subscriber isn’t using
Meanwhile NZB will still exist and never targeted. Funny how they hate torrents so much when NZB is superior and easier.
Bluray was always luxury.
Perhaps even a crime.
I miss some of those great DVD extras.
In the movie, Robert Downey Jr’s said he didn’t break character until he finished do the DVD commentary. He was in character when he did the DVD commentary.
There was a special edition of Buckaroo Banzai with an onscreen commentary that pointed out that Buckaroo was carrying Einstein’s brain with him when he entered dimension 8
The extended DVD for 40 Year Old Virgin features all the “how I know you’re gay” that didn’t make the movie itself. I giggled extensively.
I think i have more Laserdiscs than Blu-rays
#BackToThePast
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DVD, Blueray, VHS? I’ve never heard of those torrent sites before 🏴☠️
Because I’m uncreative, I’m just going to steal the joke from Sseth.
Because the vehicle in From Software’s game, Elden Ring, is called “Torrent”, I can’t wait for the next From Soft character “Punjabi Codex Denuvo, pre-cracked Novirus [MeGusta]”.
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Missed opportunity IMO there should totally be a piracy product or site called VHS
Sounds dangerous, you could get a problem with copyrights with a name like that.
Virtual Home Streaming
Digital Video Download
Subcaption Direct to Disk
I LOVE IT
they are what your torrents evolved from.
