Random Rant: I feel like reddit died after they banned all the “unmoderated” communities. All the posts became sanitized. Now reddit is adding AI and streaks and NFTs to keep people on a platform that has no more content.
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reddit apparently is still valuable for people to make money off using bots, that arnt propaganda bots. it just involves getting enough people to get on yuor OF accounts, or if your using links to your business website. of course these bots usually wont target the large subs for recognition, because you mostly will be easily banned and filtered out from the famous subs very quickly, they use obscure ones where reddit wouldnt immediately notice them.
Aaron was about as much a cofounder of reddit as Musk is a cofounder of tesla. Source: I was on reddit when he joined and I remember his own yc-startup Infogami.
I recently checked out the front page out of curiosity. It was really weak, meme wise, and content wise, i didn’t scroll more than 2 pages. I understand that the niche communities are the best part but there isn’t anything enticing to me there anymore.
“Reddit Pro”? 🤢
Lol yeah… what a shit show
Reddit has been on a slow, steady downward trajectory for over a decade. However, it was the rampant engagement bots nagging me with inane questions that drove me away. That, and overzealous moderation deleting comments and dishing out temporary bans for the lamest reasons. Reddit used to be the place where smart and funny people hung out and shared. Now it’s just another bland social media site trying to wring the greatest profit out the unwashed masses.
started in 2017, around the same time 45 first term. subs started to have very inflammatory content, so they start banning anyone that remotely they think, its offensive in that Political climate. just like you cant use the word, black, and demographic word in certain context.
What is the 99.99 stuff? NFT ? Avatar?
If I understand correctly you can buy a NFT to use as your profile picture. But its completely useless since the only place you will ever see it as a tiny icon next to your name in the comments and on the profile page that no one visits.
Reddit says that most of these are “limited runs” but that’s BS because “limited” can mean they made 5 or 5 000 000.
Both, I believe. I haven’t used reddit for a while, but when I was on there and they were selling NFTs, they were both avatars (more specifically, a combination of outfit pieces you could mix and match with other pieces from other NFT and non-NFT avatars) and a collectible at once.
I honestly don’t have much of a problem with how they did NFTs as avatars. If you want to monetize your platform in a way that doesn’t paywall any actual features or meaningfully impact the user experience, go for it. But they really started to go hog wild on it and promoted it so persistently that it felt like you were being made to care about a profile picture you probably wouldn’t have remembered you even had otherwise.
Reddit is really the only online place that embraced NFTs and maintained an ecosystem with them. It’s a small ecosystem, but they use them in all their absurdly nihilistic glory.
Reddit died long ago, we are just flies tipping on it’s rotting corpse
vultures(AI) are just pecking at the decomposing corpse.
Adding NFT? In 2025? They really are desperate…
NFT is kinda old thing? Got one for free in 2022 and can find info about from 2021. The only notable thing was required password for gosh darn thing.
Got one for free
That’s the main problem. NFTs are almost free to create.
they want to paywall subs eventually, plus becoming a facebook clone down the line, where the datamining features included, like requiring your REAL ID, facial recognition, i suspect thier bannings propensity will get more intense as facebook too if you try to “lie” on your credentials.
They already require your real ID if you are in the UK
Isn’t it amazing that Reddit Gold was actually one of their better ideas to derive income from users?
Ironically I saw this ad last night.
Unless you talk openly about surviving suicidal thoughts, rape, or other family-unfriendly subjects.
Openly? Banned.
You forgot the “woah there partner” vpn block page
I just remembered the one that really pisses me off: ‘to use reddit anonymously you must log in’.
Like cant you just give me a “are you a robot” test and let me use a VPN???
Partner or pardner?
Since everyone knows it is pardner, it is just assumed that we will automatically do the translation in our heads:-P
Yeah this pisses me off so bad when I need to search for something and the only answers are on reddit. Is there a way around this?
I use RedLib but I make it even easier by having an extension LibRidirect that automatically redirects reddit links to privacy frontends such as RedLib. It’s really easy to use and I don’t even have to think about using Reddit ever again. Win-win in my book.
Oh my god, you’re a LIFESAVER for the LibRidirect link, thank you! Fucking Instagram and Quora links piss me off too!
All my favorite niches have gone to Discord.
Freaking Discord. A black hole where anything useful is buried under mountains of folks shooting the breeze. Oh, and with a useless search function.
Every. Single. Niche. Even self-hosting ones like localllama.
Reddit may be dead and enshittified, but at least it was accessible to search engines :(
Hardly matters though, as they just randomly shadowban me anyway…
Yeah I still don’t get why people use Discord, it’s so shitty and knowledge just gets locked up there to die
I recently downloaded a mod for a game from a custom content creator who hosted their own webpage. I experienced issues, so I went to see if there was a support page of common issues. Instead, their “support” was a link to their Discord server.
Which means instead of an FAQ page, or an email account that they could respond to in their own time, this person preferred to moderate a live chatroom where people ask the same questions over and over again? On the one hand, as a user of their cc, it’s reassuring to have someone who worked on the content there to live-answer any questions. I got my problem solved quickly, so the user experience is definitely positive. On the other hand, I would’ve thought keeping up essentially a “customer support” Discord to be far more tedious and frustrating than maintaining other common alternatives.
I just can’t imagine having the time and energy to stay on top of a Discord where everyone is upset and you have to repeat yourself constantly. It sounds like a living Hell.
Same reason people never bothered to do a proper search when all knowledge on the internet was indexed on forums - people can’t be bothered, and want another person to find information for them before they make a real effort to find it themselves.
This. If it isn’t 0 effort, people won’t do it.
Well look here, for instance:
https://old.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1mpk2va/announcing_localllama_discord_server_bot/
Looks like a combination of:
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A power trippin’ mod looking to promote their discord.
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A feeling of nowhere else to go as Reddit enshittifies.
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Unawareness that https://sh.itjust.works/c/localllama exists because Reddit shadow bans anyone who links Lemmy.
And this is literally a self-hosting community… Look at the comments, they all know Discord is bad, but the mood is “WTF else are ya gonna do?”
For some context, localllama itself is kinda a refuge from Twitter/Linkedin spaces filled with Tech Bro stink, and it’s already been shattered by random niche LLM Discords (like BeaverAI, which you will find in another thread).
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oh yea, some ytber tried to get people in a sub that was criticizing them to thier DISCORD, everyone knew they were trying to silence them, glad people stuck around and kept the sub around.
I wonder if discord shuts down due to lets say its predator problem, will this be a library of alexandria type event? Obviously wed attempt to grab as much as we can before the “library” burns down, but how? To my understanding every server owner would have to install a bot to grab all of that data themselves.
Someone please tell me im wrong and why because I hate this.
I’m doing everything I can to move anything remotely important to me off Discord and into other mediums just in case this scenario happens. Or, even more likely, Discord starts asking for age verification shit. I’ve already let my friends know the day they cross THAT line is the day I will stop using Discord.
No, you’re absolutely right. Discord is incredibly impermanent. Besides the lack of being able to search for things or split conversations into separate threads for every topic because it’s a chat tool, not a forum, as soon as a server disappears, everything hosted on that server goes as well (as far as end users are concerned. I’m sure Discord can pull stuff from their backend).
We need a return of niche forum communities and the like for the sake of the preservation of information.
they will probably go to facebook,
Probably, but im more concerned with archiving the years of information being poured into the platform.
We need forums back.
a library of alexandria type event
It already feels like that, because useful knowledge just fades away into chitchat in Discord.
But yeah, I think it would be. There are already some scraping tools (and apparently, some chat archives built by hackers), but without some crazy hack, there’s just no way around communities being invite only.
I think it really boils down to the owners of the servers doing the right thing. I mean that in terms of properly organizing the important information on their server and archiving it elsewhere simulateously.
Otherwise yeah I agree its just a furnace In which data is being shoveled into, Rather than a single event as I implied.
Again, someone knowlegable please tell me we are wrong, and a solution exists, or is in development.
Before the API thing there was only one “am I the asshole” subreddit.
now theres like 4 of them, most of them are bots, or written by a person that is gauging peoples reaction(for thier personal projects)
What happened? Did the original mods protest and reddit itself just make a new one? I know there were alot of communities that shut down for a day or two when the API changes happened.
i remember the original AITA was private for a while, then came out AITAH, and then AIO, and then a couple of other ones.
Reddit died imo when they limited API calls for app developers who made incredible 3rd party apps for the platform. Maybe theyve since fixed it, I wouldnt know since I felt cheated having supported baconreader and boost for their hard work in making the reddit exerience feel so premium. I tried the official reddit app and It was buggy garbage at the time. So IMO they pushed away a good chunk of their userbase even before the whole politicapocolypse, bann waves, community removals, etc.
While lemmy is not a perfect replacement in terms of numbers. I feel that every upvote and comment has more meaning here. People here are generally more productive and insightful. It makes me wonder how much bot traffic reddit had prior to the changes. Selfishly I kind of hope lemmy stays where it is in terms of popularity. You all seem generally really cool and It would be hard to find the real ones In the sea of reddit-esque nonsense.
Firing Victoria was the beginning of the end.
Can’t up vote you harder or enough times.
Have my love ❤️
oh, stop it you <3. In all seriousness though this whole post’s comment section Is just proof of what im saying. Gotta spread that love around Im just saying what we all kind of silently agree on.
Exactly. There are some people budding straight off of Reddit culture that still haven’t read the room here, but I try to tell them if possible, otherwise I just block. 😌 We need to foster the culture in this place. It takes a village.
it was the same time, a article reported that reddit was mostly 50% bots, what acoincidence. i can see it being bots mostly, because many subs have a bot posts people were accusing it of. non-propaganda bots can come in the hundreds, or thousands of account by 1 individual too.
Interested if you have an article or video you are referencing here, would love to read/watch
That was the major sign post, indeed
I was a daily redditor since mid-2011, but I had no issue dropping it the day they announced the third-party api changes and came over to lemmy soon after. I could see the writing on the wall with that change.
So glad Boost exists for Lemmy.
Same, you can verify by checking my reddit under the same name.
Mine only goes back 11 years as I did that cool thing where you delete your account and start fresh each year for a few years.
I do like how the only times I’ve used it since is to shill Lemmy and apparently abusing a monarchist.
Same! Boost Is definitely the best ive found. Even the free version is incredible the ads only apear in a tiny box at the bottom in the comments section. Super unintrusive, I supported Immediately after testing out other options and landing back on boost.
I just wish they could somehow implement saving posts and going back through upvoted content similar to how it worked on reddit, but i understand that there are probably technical limitations and less financial insentive.
the ads only apear in a tiny box at the bottom in the comments section. Super unintrusive
…You folks tolerate ads? Just use Voyager. It has post+comment saving, and no ads. It even has user tags.
I tried voyager, Its missing post viewing modes that I loved from boost and baconreader. I do not tolerate ads that is slander lol, I did a 1x payment to support the devs and now dont get any ads, If they update voyager with the features i need, Ill do the same.
Try Summit, at this point it’s a pretty effective boost killer and also foss.
It’s developed at a high pace (which is why it reached boost killer status quite recently imo) so if you miss any feature you can request it and probably see it added in a week or two.
I got Boost once they released the Lemmy version, and then I got one single PragerU ad. That pissed me off, a lot, those shitheads are my enemies. I basically coin-flipped between picking a different app that wouldn’t give ad space to those pricks, and just buying the ad-free thing, but laziness prevailed and I bought the thing instead. Still on Boost to this day.
Fuck advertising, the entire advertising industry, and the plain concept of forcing your brand in front of a person’s eyes non-consentually, should all disappear in the future.
Hey, fuck you man, I’m not cool, you’re cool!
Reddit was nice when it was a niche…
Yeah I also hope Lemmy doesnt get more popular. This is a good group.
It can be a little more popular imo. We’re still just under the “critical mass” needed to get more niche instances in good shape in terms of users and discussion
I feel kind of bad though everyone should feel this sense of community.
You can if you go outside and make friends.
True, Generally I meet people though hyper-specific hobbies like fighting games or MTG. All of which have a pretty sizable upfront cost to enjoy. Not to mention the events are usually at a store, restaraunt, venue etc. All of which costs money. Im finding it harder and harder to justify financially and I cant imagine its much better for anyone else.
too bad most of them are on reddit subs.
Yeah. I like MTG too. But what I try to do is make at least one new close friend every year. And then I’ll do stuff like host barbecues and shit and make friends with their friends. And my friend group expands. And then I have people to go jogging with or go on hikes with or go camping with or even just sit around and play cards with, all very cheap things to do. And I have a massive friend group now.
You have to put effort in though if you want that sense of community. It doesn’t just spontaneously happen to you.
Im glad thats working for you and I hope that someone reads this and gets value out of it. but no offense I think we just live entirely different lifestyles and value different things.
I will agree that your lifestyle is definitely healthier for the community at large, and politically speaking your local area is healthier having you and others socializing about or engaging with current events.
I think outliers like myself must exist in some way. While nothing I produce currently is on the same level as lets say an artist or musician. Someday I will write, program, or even just share something ive made that gives me the value and purpose I seek.
Selfish? probably, but I am constantly learning about new things and perspectives. Lemmy just happens to be a highway into other peoples minds that I very much enjoy. I did not mean to imply that I desire the same level of social belonging that others have. Ive got my family, animals, significant other, all of my remaining energy belongs to them.
Heck maybe im an asshole and youre about to slap me with a truth bomb, and thats why im here.
Art and music are not the only things of value to share with society. You can build or farm or create other things of value that you are proud of that are beneficial to society. Social structures and building community are also insanely valuable and our loss of this is one of the big reasons our society is becoming distant and segregated and weakened against oppression. An online space is not a good replacement for this, especially in the current social climate of the world and the current technological situation. Like enjoy it, but it’s candy, it’s an unhealthy substitute for the real thing. But I do also understand how tiresome the world is and I think we can all enjoy a little bit of guilty pleasure when you’re too tired to do anything else. But you absolutely have to recognize it for what it is.
Ew.
Cake day: 23 October 2023
Guess what made me leave lol
halloween?
You have an account on reddit, but you’re not a bot? That’s a banning!
I was banned for reporting trolls. They called it “abuse of the report button.”
some mods will actually go out the way say you cant report people, they think its not violating the sub rules.
Then why the fuck is there a report button?
The worst part is the Contributor Quality Score, which is the subjective version of karma.
If you’re not a bot, then you have to spend a lot of real time producing acceptable content to get to do anything YOU want to do. You literally have to grind Reddit to be able to post in some subs, even if your account is older than the hills and has positive karma.
First time I’m hearing of the CQS. Wow, just wow. Dystopian shit.
New account experience on Reddit in 2025:
- Create an account;
- Post something on a subreddit that has AutoMod configured to instantly remove posts/comments from new accounts, accounts with low karma or accounts with low CQS;
- Get a site-wide shadowban because your first contribution was removed;
- If you’re unaware of shadowbans, keep using the site, leaving comments, thinking nobody replies to you because you’re not that interesting;
- If you’re aware of them, keep trying to appeal with zero effect.
Fuck Steve Huffman and fuck his enshittified site.
I recently started what’s probably my 15th account for a single topic. Same exact thing happened to me.
Thank you for including a link; this sounds like a fucking joke.
Hate that shit, Reddit’s decline started when individual users started to become sanctioned superusers and did away with the veil of equal-ish participation.
Generally all things done there to scale your feed based on recent activity suck too.
It’s infuriating how much time and energy is extracted from everyone chasing hidden and arbitrary metrics that serve some opaque corporate interest.
I gave up on reddit the day the mod teams of were allowed to ban you from their community not because you did anything wrong, but because you were a member in another sub that they didn’t like.
That happens here constantly
I’ve only ever seen this from the kids over at .ml.
Irony is that people in .ml ban you for not agreeing with their hivemind
I’ve heard this a few times, and then I’ve seen the people that got banned…
.ml seems to be a magnet for people who want to scream explicatives at leftists and throw in some transphobia to boot.
Some people likely deserve getting banned but they have a very fragile echo chamber if they need to ban anyone not toeing the party line.
I was in an argument with someone on .ml unironically calling north Korea democratic and then they banned me because apparently I’m a “chauvinistic westerner” when I disagreed. I found that pretty hilarious.
they have a very fragile echo chamber
They have an active moderator base.
I’ve been banned from plenty of communities already - particularly meme communities - in the wider Fediverse for rubbing a mod the wrong way. It isn’t particular to .ml and it’s silly to see Lemmyites panic every time they see an .ml instance user or post.
unironically calling north Korea democratic
So what? Plenty of people in America call Florida democratic. You’ll be screamed at for suggesting otherwise (Florida voters are just too stupid to vote correctly, you see).
If you get in a pissing contest with a mod or power user, there are plenty of communities that will ban you for being toxic. Either learn to exit the conversation gracefully or stop sticking your dick in the social media blender to begin with. You’re probably better off getting banned than running back in for another screaming match.
How is that ironic?
People claim Lemmy is supposed to be “better” than Reddit but so far I’ve encountered more petty barons here than Reddit
Ah OK. To be fair, we can say Luigi Mangione and Free Palestine here.
Outside of the conservative American subreddits that’s standard too though. I rarely see anyone (not downvoted to hell) claim Israel should continue
That was so long ago, it’s just how people in contentious communities dealt with people to save work on mods.
I know because I was involved in those apps and moderating large subs that absolute shitmouthed turds loved to ransack with brigading.
You have no idea how bad brigading was, particularly by the foul, juvenile 4chan-type crowds who would arbitrarily decide something was “pro feminist” and then flood the sub with hate posts until the mods gave up and then they would slip in their own mods and rebrand the whole community.
I genuinely did not care and still do not care if it offended some people that they were pre-banned because they liked to participate in hate communities, for whatever reason. Back then you could make alts and nobody cared so what does it matter.
Read ‘liked to participate’ as I argued with right wing nutjobs and lurked in their spaces. I shouldn’t have to change accounts to look over the fence. Especially if it’s because you’re being a lazy mod. I know my comment history. I said something like “I’m so sorry” once and that got be banned.
I shouldn’t have to justify myself when I didn’t break a communities rules and a community shouldn’t have the right to police my content consumption when it doesn’t impact that community.
There are a lot bigger things that we had to deal with daily, and there are lot bigger problems with the platforms, communities, and broader social impacts that remained on my mind than the small percentage of people inconvenienced by the decisions some people made to keep their mod teams from being overworked. You’re not the only one butthurt by the bot, but the alternative was worse so I still don’t really care.
slip in their own mods and rebrand the whole community
This is what really shocked me about reddit, was how it’s this really huge entity whose owners just somehow didn’t notice that the front page being shown to everyone by default contained stuff from subs that were really very blatantly and obviously manipulated by mods not being on the level. I realize you can’t police every one of the thousands of active subs on there, but what gets to go to the front page shouldn’t need much curation.
Yeah. The mod infiltration by bad actors really sucked. What was it like 50 people that were basically modding entire site? Then you have unmodded communities that get banned and you can’t create a new one because the other one was banned. It’s like the catch-22 they use to keep communities in check.
It absolutely was and is like that.
The thing is, when those horrible posts got boosted to the front, it just made for more drama, more “engagement” and more links being shared across other social media sites.
Reddit ignoring their responsibility to administrate wasn’t a bug, it was a feature.
It’s the same as what Jubilee is doing now, boosting the worst voices on both sides, making people hate each other more and giving people a distorted view of demographics in our country. It’s line going up at the expense of everything we’ve worked the last several thousand years to build. I’m happy I was banned and will never return, I just wish more people would realize what these places are doing to us all.
They sure love to admin now. The silence of Reddit admin drove me crazy. Especially when I tried to run my own subs.
So you gave up on it like a decade ago?
You gave up on Reddit because mods can ban you for random reasons unrelated to your behavior? That’s one of a small set of problems that’s literally much worse and more prevalent on Lemmy.
I haven’t noticed. Maybe because they don’t announce it here? Still a pretty shity thing to do. It’s hilarious that a platform that is supposed to be about getting around censorship is so crazy about it. Federated stuff in general. You market it as this web of free ideas but really it’s everyone on their own island and if they don’t like you then they put up walls to keep you out. Maybe it’s from being raised in 00s internet where you were shit on for saying anything but that’s dumb. Early internet you had a voice and if you said dumb things you got ignored individually or down voted by the community at large.
This tribal bullshit is what keeps us divided. You should be able to rob someone of their voice when they use it in a way you don’t like.
That’s how the right keeps winning people over.
