Art is just something that makes you think, though, and jogs something inside of you. Hell, you could print this thread out and sell it, and suddenly it’s “art”. The point is, I don’t care about the process so much, I care about the end result: how it makes me feel as a consumer of art.
This is why “art” itself is not just a passing fad, but a constant commentary on the zeitgeist, often poking fun at it, or presenting it from a different angle or through a different lense than you personally would have been looking through.
That’s why I would caution everyone here to not “throw the baby out with the bath water”.
Is thoughtless AI slop itself “art” - no, obviously, of course not!! In fact I’m glad this person was booted. But it can (and will) be leveraged by realtm artists who are trying to land a point, so I would encourage all critics of AI to have clear eyes and an open mind so they can enjoy all the very VERY fun and thought/conversation-provoking art that is to come on the subject of (or rebelling against) generative AI in the coming years.
The point is, I don’t care about the process so much, I care about the end result
And here a lot of artists would disagree with you. Because for artists, the act of creating is as important as - if not even more important than - the end product. To quote a smart college student’s musings I once heard: “Art is how artists process life experiences.”
The rest I agree with, AI is a tool and the biggest issues with it are the people who are creating it and the people abusing it and making life for artists worse. Adam Savage once said that someday some film student will do something really amazing with AI (and then Hollywood will steal it and copy it into the ground), but that hasn’t happened yet. He said that what he cares about when he looks at a piece is what he can see of the artist in that piece, and with AI, you see nothing.
As an aside, there’s a real conversation to be had about how the word “consumer” has replaced all forms of interaction in our vocabulary. We no longer enjoy or appreciate art - we consume it; we’re not customers, we’re consumers, etc. But that’s not really relevant to the conversation except as a comment on how companies have pushed all forms of enjoyment down to the level of eating a fast food burger.
Art is just something that makes you think, though, and jogs something inside of you. Hell, you could print this thread out and sell it, and suddenly it’s “art”. The point is, I don’t care about the process so much, I care about the end result: how it makes me feel as a consumer of art.
This is why “art” itself is not just a passing fad, but a constant commentary on the zeitgeist, often poking fun at it, or presenting it from a different angle or through a different lense than you personally would have been looking through.
That’s why I would caution everyone here to not “throw the baby out with the bath water”.
Is thoughtless AI slop itself “art” - no, obviously, of course not!! In fact I’m glad this person was booted. But it can (and will) be leveraged by realtm artists who are trying to land a point, so I would encourage all critics of AI to have clear eyes and an open mind so they can enjoy all the very VERY fun and thought/conversation-provoking art that is to come on the subject of (or rebelling against) generative AI in the coming years.
And here a lot of artists would disagree with you. Because for artists, the act of creating is as important as - if not even more important than - the end product. To quote a smart college student’s musings I once heard: “Art is how artists process life experiences.”
The rest I agree with, AI is a tool and the biggest issues with it are the people who are creating it and the people abusing it and making life for artists worse. Adam Savage once said that someday some film student will do something really amazing with AI (and then Hollywood will steal it and copy it into the ground), but that hasn’t happened yet. He said that what he cares about when he looks at a piece is what he can see of the artist in that piece, and with AI, you see nothing.
As an aside, there’s a real conversation to be had about how the word “consumer” has replaced all forms of interaction in our vocabulary. We no longer enjoy or appreciate art - we consume it; we’re not customers, we’re consumers, etc. But that’s not really relevant to the conversation except as a comment on how companies have pushed all forms of enjoyment down to the level of eating a fast food burger.
Other dude doesn’t understand the difference between imaging and art. Art is the human perspective. This apparently is more than they can comprehend.