• Cevilia (she/they/…)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        28 days ago

        I’m absolutely serious.

        You can also add a package name to install it at the same time as doing the upgrade, though personally I prefer to do that as a separate command so I can see what dependencies are needed.

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          && executes the second command, if the command before was successful, || executes the second command if the first one was unsuccessful and ; executes the second command regardless of success.

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            28 days ago

            I may be totally confused but I’ve also always done it in that order, otherwise I feel like it would run upgrades from your cache of the apt repos (possibly hitting errors as stuff likes to change), then after it would run apt update (updating the repos).

            My thought has always been update repos, then check those repos for software upgrades. I could definitely be wrong though.

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                27 days ago

                Yeah but shouldn’t the order matter? My understanding was that && just said 'after the previous command, run this… ’ so running upgrade before update would miss any changes changes to repos… From what I can tell update is required before upgrade (just like you have it), doing it in reverse missed a ton of updates for me.

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                  27 days ago

                  If it were upgrade && update, yes that would miss the boat. --update is a baked in feature of apt upgrade, so it knows what to do ^_^

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    28 days ago

    Be me -

    Gets the Ok from IT to switch to a Linux Distro

    Gets the Ok from my direct Manager

    Gets the Ok from our contracts manager who used to be in my direct managers position before

    Direct manager reaches out to lead developer, who happens to be a windows fanboy, for the web app we use to ensure “compatibility”, gets told to be careful of what I do and our cybersecurity insurance won’t cover it.

    Be me, looking around at all the minuscule pieces of hardware connected to the internet likely running some of Linux or Unix.

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      It’s a fucking web app. Make sure it works for a browser. You suck as a web developer if your shit web app needs to work on a specific OS.

      And those are fighting words because I build web apps.

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        I’ve started noticing websites just to refuse to work on Linux:

        • Xfinity
        • Microsoft
        • United Airlines
        • American Airlines

        It’s not like some weird script error either. It’s straight up a 403 Forbidden on certain routes. Works perfectly fine if I switch to my Windows laptop. It’s like it took one look at my user agent string and decided I was a bot.

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          28 days ago

          Not saying you’re wrong, but if you’re running a VPN it could be that as well. More and more sites are demanding CAPTCHA tests and verification holds or just returning 403 for VPN access no matter what OS you are running.

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        Man they get really up in your business if you aren’t using Chrome and their dinky extension, that I swear he pulled from someone’s GitHub and rebranded as his own, which all it does is open file links in the file browser.

        I made a point by switching my user agent on Zen Browser to report as Chrome, Ubuntu haven’t heard a peep about it yet.


        Side note at one point in time the clock-in we use, which is also a web app, had its admin/manager panel exposed to everyone in the company, I reported it and all I got was a thanks.

      • greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        28 days ago

        What? I’ve never had fedora reboot itself. Sometimes it asks if I want to install updates on reboot or shutdown. But I am always in charge of when that happens.

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      Wait what? I have been running silver blue and vanilla fedora recently and I don’t remember this happening. I always run my update script manually every day or so though. When do you see this screen?

      • minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world
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        28 days ago

        It updates just like Windows automatically, in Discover. Then it asks to restart and upgrade and it’s just like Windows. I did this just today. Nice UI and UX with Fedora with Plasma.

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        28 days ago

        When it updatedssystem files it’ll do this when you shut down your computer.

        If you never shut it down it never will lol

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      28 days ago

      I had the same problem trying to use a Windows 11 laptop after running linux at home for years. Turns out the “looking stuff up” part is how you learn how to use it better.

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      28 days ago

      That’s literally everything ever that is worth it.

      Imagine saying “I really piano but I just wish I understood how to play it better. I keep having to look up how to do things”.

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    28 days ago

    It’s missing the part where invoking su requires your password. For the sake of accuracy, I think you should show how you enter your password.

    Also, I’m nervous about the command ifconfig. Can you try running that and paste your results here, to help quiet my fears, of course.

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        Am I incorrect to say that using the command “super user do” can be expressed conversationally as “invoking super user?” I’m confused. The meme literally says “sudo.” And while you don’t need to begin the command with “sudo,” you’ll then get a message asking you to enter your root password. So you’re still kinda invoking super user.

        Maybe you should double-check me, though. Type $ apt-get update into your terminal. If it asks for your password, reply with what you entered to satisfy that prompt. For research reasons.

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          su means “switch user” and by default uses root if a root user exists.

          You can use sudo -i, sudo bash (or sudo sh, sudo fish etc), run0 and likely more ways to open a root shell.

          But for running a program with root, use sudo, run0 , pkexec or doas.

          Actually, you should not run internet-facing programs as root. For example when downloading a repo file, download it without root, move it with root.

          But well, most package managers do not care and use don’t use polkit (ask for password when needed). Flatpak, rpm-ostree and some others use polkit well.

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    28 days ago

    Enough of these dumb memes already. Do we really so desperately need to boost our self esteem that fucking much? Yes Linux has it’s cool benefits over Windows. We fucking know.

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      27 days ago

      I agree. Enough with these simple memes - we need full-on propaganda!

      You know what my OS doesn’t do? Yeah, exactly. That’s the better question now.

      PS I love you

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    It’s insanity. I had to upgrade my work laptop to windows 11 this week.

    IT didn’t do their research and turns out our main software isn’t compatible with windows 11 at all. So i had to downgrade back to windows 10. When i did, photos don’t work and the microsoft store wont open.

    Windows is such a horrible system, i have no idea why they made it so poorly. I could have installed any distro of linux and had it working well in less than 20 minutes. Upgrading to windows 11 took almost 2 hours and it still didn’t work.

    Now IT has to scramble to find a solution before the 14th and we lose all security updates, which they are very concerned about. What a nightmare to be in IT.

    • WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world
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      It’s always a nightmare being in IT lol

      Nobody ever calls to say, “Hey! Just wanted to let you know that my email is working great, keep up the good work!”

      We only hear from people when shit is broken.

      Being in a windows shop only makes it 100x more difficult and expensive.