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  • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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    Why would I want to create some soulless approximation of my creative idea, when I could use my own brain, hands, and heart to create my idea exactly the way I imagine it?

    Putting work into art can be a cathartic labor of love. I enjoy making things with specific people, music, or senses & imagery in mind. There’s also a distinct sense of accomplishment that comes from completing a work and saying, “I made this.” Putting a prompt into a machine can’t give me that.

  • nostrauxendar@lemmy.world
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    My fave thing about creativity is raw efficiency. When I sit down to paint, I’ve already mapped out the most efficient way to create a completed painting (i.e. a product).

    It’s to put the paintbrush down and immediately Google what I was going to paint and just print out a picture of that instead. WAY quicker. I can do that in minutes as opposed to what used to take months!

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    Creative iteration is hard work. if it is only taking minutes, it is because it is not creative. Sure, it is hard to sit down and draw or write or do any work, but the best ideas happen during that process

  • Sal@lemmy.world
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    The point of art isn’t getting it done quickly. It’s the journey, the painstaking hours and the satisfaction of the finished piece.

    The only people who think making art faster is good are marketing ghouls.

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      Yeah I think people like this see a book written by a human that took them a year to write and sold 1,000 copies and an AI that farts out 500 books in a day and sells 1,000 copies in total as essentially the same thing, except that the AI one is superior to them because it happened faster. Never mind that now Amazon is flooded with the 500 books the AI just made so nobody else can get seen, tomorrow we’ll just just make 1,000 books.

    • Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world
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      I kind of had that realization the other day. Art is just people taking time to make something, good or bad. What makes it valuable is the time + their ability. It is effectively a monetary battery of your time, charge it up with time, sell it for money.

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        The value is also partly the literal structure that you’ve built into your brain to have the skill set necessary to do that work.

        Building skill in art is as profoundly impactful on your neurology as learning a new language or sciences.

  • DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf
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    Are you kidding me? AI doesn’t make creative people more creative. Actually picking up a crayon or a pencil or whatever your jive is, and actively creating more, makes creative people more creative.

    Also, lol, a former Shark Tank host pushing a grift, the jokes write themselves.

    • slaacaa@lemmy.world
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      Wealth hoarding. It’s a mental illness.

      But because they are hoarding money instead of toilet paper, pokemon cards or empty soda cans, they are somehow smart and we should worship them, instead of locking them in an institution.

      • undeffeined@lemmy.ml
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        The answer is simple. Wealth makes others serve you and diminshes or sometimes outright removes consequences.

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        I read the phrase “dictatorship of the wealthy” for the first time the other day. It always seemed obvious but, to see it put that way struck me as novel.

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      Without the greed mindset we just couldn’t possibly comprehend the benefits of turning our limited drinking water into more “art” than an artist ever wanted to create in the first place.

  • arsCynic@piefed.social
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    It actually does cause brain damage. I mentioned it in an essay I wrote (What if I paid for all my free software?):

    For one, power causes brain damage which renders rich people literally incapable of knowing what is best for others:

    “Subjects under the influence of power, he found in studies spanning two decades, acted as if they had suffered a traumatic brain injury—becoming more impulsive, less risk-aware, and, crucially, less adept at seeing things from other people’s point of view.”

    “And when he put the heads of the powerful and the not-so-powerful under a transcranial-magnetic-stimulation machine, he found that power, in fact, impairs a specific neural process, “mirroring,” that may be a cornerstone of empathy.” ―Power Causes Brain Damage, by Jerry Useem for The Atlantic.‍[16]

    • _1983@lemmy.world
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      I greatly enjoyed your essay and found it thought-provoking. I dug through the references regarding power and its effect on the brain (and loss of empathy), and it was both surprising to find it was researched/established scientifically and not-so-surprising in that it explains so much of these people’s behavior.

      Cheers

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        it explains so much of these people’s behavior

        Indeed. For me, realizing the cause of problems continues to be instrumental to keep things in perspective when solutions are often too complex to contemplate. However, in this case the conclusion is clear: a wealth/power cap has to become normalized. The inverse of vaccinations, you take money away so the indefinite growth mind virus doesn’t grab hold to infect or impact society.


        Thank you for having invested time and thought into my essay, it makes it all worthwhile, truly.

    • SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social
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      It makes them create stuff that looks like shit to the trained eye, but is good or good enough for them, thus they don’t have to pay money to an actual professional. That doesn’t only relate to art, but to IT stuff as well. If you want it done right, hire a professional.

      It’s the same with the “but my nephew can do it for a tenth of the price”-folks.

      • discocactus@lemmy.world
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        This is exactly what my friend who was a copywriter told me several years ago; now he manages the company’s AI production pipeline. They mostly do b2b. But essentially, the AI even then could produce stuff that was 80% good for 10% of the money, and infinitely quicker and scalable. And that’s plenty good for what they’re doing. So several people lost their jobs, the content quality drops, but the C suite makes money and nobody cares about the “craftsmanship” of the work.

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        Just an anecdote, but recently, there have been many “crochet” 3D models posted to 3D printing sites. (Many of those are marked as AI-generated, too) Those look nothing like a crochet toy would look like. These models have a yarn-looking “V” pattern applied to every surface of 3D model, but this pattern comes not from crochet, but from hand-knit blankets (as far as I can tell).

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        Putting effort in it is what makes it art. You as an artist has decided making this piece is worth your time. ”Art” without effort is just disposable slop.

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    Those AI folks need to see it as the journey taken, not the destination. Until that happens the AI “Art Kit” for adults will always be a balloon floating towards a pin.

  • aesthelete@lemmy.world
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    What the fuck would Mark Cuban know about creating art?

    People let these business ghouls way the fuck out of their lane.

  • Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Ai makes it more obvious why very rich people don’t deserve their wealth but they will say some of the dumbest shit and act enlightened.

    Dear shitheads, creative people don’t hate ai because it create what they create, they hate it because it is build with stolen labor and used to push them out of the market. People like new tools that make their life easier… people don’t like when big companies steal their labor and push them out of the market.

  • etherphon@lemmy.world
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    “Why use your brain when you don’t have to?” Mark has had some surprisingly good takes for a billionaire but way off on this one.

  • MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com
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    Love that he thinks “if you know how to tell a great story you will love AI.” The whole point of AI is to cut out the telling a story part. In reality it’s “if you think you have a good idea for a story but don’t know how to tell one you’ll love whatever the AI spits out.” People who know how to do creative things don’t need AI to do it for them.