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Would be nice if you could play a gay dude. It feels like most lbgtq representation is only women
Yes! It’s that whole disgusting “two chicks at the same time” trope that allows them to get away with it more, I assume.
Also sexism. Women can do it because they’re silly creatures who don’t know what they’re doing without a man controlling them so obviously being a lesbian is acceptable. But a man choosing to do those things? He should know better
Sexism for sure, in all sorts of permutations.
Women with a sex drive must be bi. Therefore bi women are hot.
Of course women can mess around with women, it’s not “real sex”.
She just needs a “real man”.
It’s so gross, and makes no sense to me. Guys seem much more situationally indiscriminate, sailors, people in jail, and honestly who cares if their guy is bi? Either you are monogamous and it’s a non-issue, or you aren’t, and your opportunity is wider for fun stuff than with a straight guy. No downside I can see.
To me it also kinda rhymes with the way bisexual men vs bisexual women are often regarded in wider society. “Bisexual men are actually gay” while “bisexual women are actually straight”. So only the part of their attraction that relates to men is taken seriously 😐
“forced” to play
because the path of the gamer isn’t a choice™
I have no problems with life is strange
Actually really enjoyed the first one. Haven’t played the others, though.
Some of the negative reviews for Eternal Strands over on Steam are hilarious. Because the guys that don’t outright hate being forced to play as a woman take issue with the lack of het romance options. Specifically with having to choose between the “bishie elf” or a “giant blue walrus-bear”.
And they also feel that the walrus-bear romance is less emotionally impactful than the other options.
That’s nothing, I was forced to play a snake that was eating small dots and getting longer and longer.
I’d much rather play as a woman.
I’m cis, my character in Saints row ended up trans because I wasn’t a fan of dressing up a guy and wanted to dress up a woman.
still cis tho™
Hi, I spent a few years unpacking those feelings to figure out that I like crossdressing more than I like being the gender opposite my birth. One of the things that made it more confusing in the beginning was the slew of internet comments I would read reinforcing that any gender nonconforming activity was a sure sign I was trans.
If you know the person irl and they consistently show signs of being trans I think it’s good to ask probing questions that may lead them there, but I don’t think it’s right to tell them who they are. Better for them to figure it out themselves. On the internet you definitely don’t know the person beyond a single post, or a few posts coming from their online persona (not their personal self). This means you have even less right to tell them who they are.
Especially with the TM I took your initial comment as a joke, which I don’t find super funny anymore personally but can give a half smile and single roll of the eyes. Your edit about people unpacking their feelings implies to me that you were saying it in earnest though, which is where I start to have a problem for the reasons above. Just in case you want some insight on why you may be downvoted so much.
Yeah, no. You don’t have to try to make everything into more than it is. I’d be perfectly fine being trans. No hard feelings. I’m not though, but I sometimes play female characters because I prefer looking at them. It’s not more than that.
You sound like an AI slop caricature of a blue-haired teacher telling kids they’re trans.
Not everyone you disagree with sounds like AI slop.
Not by a long shot, but that person sure does.
Which LLM says things like “still cis though”?
The phrasing isn’t exactly dead on, but normal people don’t go around trying to convince others they’re trans for stupid reasons.
“ai slop” slop
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yeah I have gender dysmorphia. Gender Dysmorphia that I don’t look like He-Man as someone assigned male at birth.
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I want to be something else when I play games. I don’t understand this need to be the same thing I am every fucking day. Bring on other genders, sexes, races, species, colors, limbs, all of it. Let’s be different. It’s a fucking video game.
Given the choice I’m almost never playing a human. The fuck would I want to be me for lmao
I STILL won’t play a game where I’m a female protagonist. And this started back on a Tomb Raider demo disk 😑
Im also not a wizard, gangster, alien, predator, space explorer, Dragonborn or soldier. Nor am I pretending to be when playing a video game.
speak for yourself, Im all of those
Why would I pretend to be?
you’re not pretending to be. you’re playing another character.
wait, what is an “interior” quality? so do you only play characters that have—or more likely lack—the same facial hair that you do?
do you have a six pack? cause a lot of game characters do and i don’t think you should play them unless you can cut glass with your abs.
what about hair and eye color? surely you don’t pretend to have different color hair, that’s disgusting; women do that eww very feminine energy.
and of course playing any superhero, magic character, any fantasy race or scifi species … all out of the question, clearly all of them exterior qualities.
I’m assuming—nay, concluding all of this because surely you’re the kind of guy who has consistent principles and this isn’t simply a case of making up a dumb excuse to sound barely more sophisticated than “but girls have cooties”
That’s fucking stupid.
I mean… I won’t willingly choose a female character to play as because of a bit of (what my trans roommate said was effectively) gender dysphoria. So like in Cyberpunk if I play the female V I feel weird because I have a harder time RPing a female character than a male character for some dumb little gaybrain reason. However I don’t need to RP Lara Croft… she just… is. Same with Aloy in Horizon. I couldn’t give less of a tittering fuck playing as those characters and actively enjoy it.
Saying “Nah women icky” and refusing to play ANY is just fucking weird dude
Weird incel take lmao
I almost never pick female character options in games for this reason. I’m not a woman. I am the main character, I don’t want to “be” a woman.
…but games where you don’t pick? Who gives a fuck, man lol. Do you not watch movies with female leads?? I am not the main character in those games, I am experiencing someone else’s story.
You’re ok with pretending to be someone you’re not in every other game you play. You’re definitely not a hero, veteran, combat expert, scientist, alien, or machine, so why do you play those games?
“Well not now, but I COULD BE someday!”
- that guy probably
Well, I’m a scientist, and some people have called me machine or asked if I was an alien. Still don’t give a fuck as who or what I play.
Imagine hating women this much.
“Bro, I’m basically the same as Batman or Master Chief. I could be a medieval fantasy wizard or a cyborg assassin, because I know they have a dick and balls in there. But a woman? That’s too far man.”
Pretty weird.
This is an unusual take in my opinion, if you’re being serious of course. Video games are all about pretending. I’m not a serial killer, but I’ve played one. I’m not a taxi driver, but I’ve played one. I’m not a plumber, but I’ve played one. It’s pretty odd to say “I can’t play Spyro because I’m simply not a dragon.”
Well Spyro is okay because he’s a boy dragon.
Lmao are you 12 or Andrew Tate?
“Bro”
Said to every woman online. Not even an option.
And here you have a grade 5 meltdown that it’s an option at all to be wear the mask of the opposite sex.
The fragility: that force is strong with you.
You are really missing out by refusing to play Portal.
I remember playing the first game when it was released in the Orange Box. I want to say I made it through at least halfway before realizing the player character was a woman. Not that it really makes any difference in the scope of the game, but they did a great job at presenting her as just another faceless silent protagonist.
You see her through a portal in literally the first scene of the game. I’m surprised you missed it.
I went through it pretty quickly the first time. Saw the orange jumpsuit and assumed small framed man. Most games back then either let you know that you would be playing a woman on the box art or allowed for character customization and was probably an RPG.
It was a welcome change from playing the archetypical dude all the time.
Yeah, and she wasn’t sexualized or have any stupid stereotypes. Just a person doing a thing!
It only ever really comes up when GLaDOS is trying to body shame you. And that’s just because she’s throwing every insult she can come up with at you.
Yeah, I never could play Mario because I’m simply not Italian.
I am half italian but couldn’t relate because I’m 0% plumber. Pipes just confuse me and I’m nowhere near athletic enough to do that kind of plumbing.
I’m curious, do you feel you have an inability to think about things from other perspectives in any other part of your daily life? Is abstract thought a challenge for you?
…I’m simply not a female. Why would I pretend to be?
You know video games aren’t real life?
What game?
Last of us part 2?
Do people really complain about playing as a lesbian? That’s like double the tits.
I did hear whining about having to play as a trans character though, despite the fact that you don’t. I can only imagine those people never played it and were just “hur dur big arms = man”.
Do people really complain about playing as a lesbian? That’s like double the tits.
Alright, I doubt you were going in this direction, but I’m going to rant anyway.
As a bi guy, I’ve been sick and tired of male fetishization of lesbians in media for years. It’s creepy. Just, they are not interested in you. Stop acting like you’re going to be the one to convert them into being bi. You aren’t.
Thank the stars that media is (slowly) growing out of this stereotype, because it’s not funny anymore, if was ever funny.
/ Rant over
Anyways, sorry to dump on your comment. It’s (hopefully) not directed at you. It just needs to be said somewhere
Sadly yes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_of_Us_Part_II#Audience_response
The Last of Us Part II was the subject of review bombing on Metacritic, resulting in a user review score of 3.4/10 at its nadir.[129][130] Reporters noticed the review bombing occurred shortly after the game launched—too early for users to feasibly have finished it;[131] some suggested that the reviews were based on the incomplete plot leaks.[102][130] Many negative reviews criticized the characterization and plot;[129][131] some complained of “social justice warrior” politics, with vitriolic responses to LGBT characters
https://collider.com/last-of-us-2-controversy-explained/
They also thought that because Abby had muscles she was trans.
Part 1 too but only addressed in DLC.
Why do we still attention to tiny loud minority of GamersTM who whinge about “go woke go broke” and yet these still games sell like hotcakes? Just tell them that if they don’t like the game, then don’t buy the game.
I prefer to clown on them relentlessly and let them be aware that everyone thinks their opinion is stupid and childish
Allowing this to go unchecked or ignored is how we got here in the first place. “Just ignore the trolls” led to the trolls having actual societal inertia. It is no longer enough to just ignore them, they need pushback.
I don’t disagree. If they troll, troll them back harder. But the way the mainstream act is that these toxic GamersTM opinions have weight, when in reality their toxic views don’t even make a dent to popular opinions and sales of game developers.
There’s a whole thing right now where companies are caving to right-wing pressure about “adult” games. It’s not smart to ignore this.
Why do we still attention to tiny loud minority of GamersTM
Because a lot of them are well-funded or have big far-right promoters behind them, affording their opinions a disproportionately large megaphone.
Just tell them that if they don’t like the game, then don’t buy the game.
They make money by complaining. This is their entire business model.
Tbh, I’m not even sure where most people get exposed to these whiny gamers. Maybe I’m just lucky that the places I spend time on online and offline don’t overlap much with these weirdly conservative gamers who seem to forget that the moral panic conservatives tried to use to ban games they love.
gotta be twitter
I’ve noticed a lot of things liberals bag on conservatives for are things they don’t say IRL. The converse is true! We pick the most outrageous statements and say, “SEE! That’s what they’re all like!”
Literally I’ve talked to people like this. Usually when I was younger, but people aren’t known for growing up. And then there are Facebook comments that are just horrendous cesspools. Also the fact that 99% of conservative politicians are openly homophobic/sexist/etc. and that never seems to disqualify or register with their base and actually improves their chances.
No, many conservatives say some pretty awful shit on the regular and you’re either lying or ignorant.
Preach, brother! Youve nailed it.
A lot of Facebook comments are filled with these people. Every once in a while I’ll go there and see an onslaught of people whining about it but generally I keep to saner places. Hell, a woman goes anywhere near a lead role and someone like Ben Shapiro, who has plenty of loyal followers, is right there to bitch and moan about it.
There are plenty of these people around, and I remember even in person when I was younger hearing about people whine about a single gay cahracter in a movie so it is not surprising at all.
Who the fuck is still using facebook???
A lot of people, especially a lot conservatives, and being weird about it doesn’t make it untrue.
You know, I dont mind you saying “maga”. But I cant get on board with “conservatives”. They arent all one thing, any more than democrats are. In fact, you cant even say “maga” as a lot of them still want to see the Epstein files. Maybe just say “cunts” :)
Maga can still want to see the Epstein files. Conservatives I’m just so fucking tired of because there is no amount of evidence you can show them that will convince them that their backwards ideology is wrong. It all hinges on hyper-individualistic nonsense based on not sharing, and the entire ideology was created by people who believed that poor people were dirty and they did it because they didn’t like that the parasitic monarchs where being treated how they deserved.
A grown adult screaming about low taxes on the rich and throwing in with people who consistently want to strip people of their basic human rights is not a serious person. “I like gay people though!” well you keep voting for homophobes and giving them power so piss off. The internet is a thing, there’s no excuse anymore, and I’m done with these unserious jokers who can’t read or do basic math enough to know that none of their ideas work at any level.
Its fine to disagree with people. Dems and republicans for decades, disagreed, but respected the system. And just got on with it. Look at the state of it now? Neither of you trusts the system. You are both locked into this social media driven culture war, to the point that if you dont win an election, you call it rigged. The MAGAtards went further, raiding the capital and seemingly some were ready to kidnap and kill. But in general, republicans arent like that. They have different values to you, thats true. But they also believe that in the end, you are all Americans. MAGA isnt that.
Think about the time that old biddy started talking shit about Obama to John McCain, and he shot it down quick as fuck. He wouldnt allow his own supporters to lie about the content of Obamas character. THAT is your general Republican. Not MAGA chuds.
You can talk to a republican, maybe even see eye to eye on some issues. You can have an informed debate. You can have that with MAGA. All you get is lies and screaming. And the danger is, if you keep on confusing the two, you end up forcing them together and then you do have one big raging group of cunts. And no one wants that.
No one is. But we are all exposed to people moaning about them, while looking for upvotes…
All I ever see is an ocean of positive comments everywhere. And the moaning is always, like the person youre replying to. Using buzzwords and positive message to get up arrows… Like they matter at all.
Oh my sweet summer child.
“The game is forcing me to fuck this man, repeatedly”
Could I skip it? Yes, but I paid for this content so now I have to see it to get my money’s worth. It’s not my fault I’m doing it, it’s the woke™!
What?! That’s terrible! How?! How can I replicate that so that I don’t accidentally do it?!
I was personally upset that ME:A doesn’t let you replay any sex scenes or romance anyone else after choosing one.
You get one little like 2:00-long cutscene of some humping and caressing and then it’s back to business as usual.
Aww I ruined the conversation I gotta save scum the assgfuck scene again
Games are not about you and the purpose often is to give you an experience that you wouldn’t have as yourself.
Depends on the game. Many games let you create a custom character and the character is defined by their actions.
Some games have zero character to the character you control.
Some are story based with strong characters where it isn’t about the player, sure, but those are less common than the ones that allow the player to either self insert or play a one dimensional archetype character.
This
Also when people complain about a game protag being a normal looking woman
Making the straights uncomfortable is great fun. :D
Its working real well in America right now… Almost like being a prick to people for “great fun” had negative consequences or something… But lets imagine someone said “Making the gays uncomfortable is great fun. :D”… That would be bigotry, right? Yet for some weird reason, you feel totally fine and safe to say something like that… How odd…
Are you just now blamed gay people for what’s happening in US? For real?
I didnt, no. Are you stupid?
Get back to me when straight people start facing systematic oppression. Until then, kindly go fuck yourself.
lol Ah, yes. The excuses. “Its ok for me to be a bigot because reasons!!!”. And then you wonder why you get that hate back. What a spoon eating cunt you are.
Cry a little more, you whiny inbred twatwaffle.
Man, they ruined a perfectly good bum when they put teeth in your mouth.
“They called me a fascist bigot, so I had to start acting like one!” is the argument you’re accidentally making here.
Yeah, thats pretty much how it works. If you treat people like theyre pieces of shit long enough, they start acting like pieces of shit. Its fucking basic psychology.
If everyone calls you a dick for long enough, it will chip away at your self esteem. Eventually, in order to try to improve your situation, you’ll reach out to something bigger than your self. Thats happens every single day for things MUCH less than treating people like they are fascists. For most people, the thing they reach out for is a football team or something like that. But for others, it can be something much worse. Like race, or religion, of political parties. People often ask “How is racism still a thing?” Well, this is how. Low self esteem. And it happens every day with out the help of fuckwits like the guy I responded to, who has clearly already made their choice to be a bigot.
Theres never any excuse to hate a person because of their skin colour, their sex/gender, or who they love. And if youre trying to make an excuse, you might not be the hero of the story you think you are.
Or… perhaps some honest self-examination is in order?
maybe the connotation behind this is, gay people making straight (homophobic) people uncomfortable.
Because every other meaning would derive into a form of hatred one way or the other
Yes, but unfortunately some people in this thread lack the reading comprehension to understand that. That’s ok. I’m sure if they keep practicing, they’ll get there eventually.
“I didnt say what I mean(yes you fucking did), and now Im going to cry about it.”
Since the first time some asshole cried “die, cis scum, die” we have known exactly who some of you are.
bruh who knows what they meant, but what you mean is, I am pretty sure, kind of mean.
Don’t be a meanie bennyboybumberchums, spread love, even if they don’t love you(consensually ofc)
We know exactly what they meant, because they said the words. Thats how you know what people mean. If they meant to say make bigots feel uncomfortable, they would have said that. But they didnt. Why? Because they see all straight people as the enemy in this weird little culture war they have going on.
Im a firm believer in you doing whatever you want in life, as long as it doesnt hurt anyone else. Trans, gay, straight and everyone else in between. You do you. But when I see this shit? Dude, rubs me the wrong way. Its just hate to fuel the stupid as fuck culture wars. And people are eating it up and spreading it around. Straight people are not the enemy. Some of them might be, that that doesnt mean you get to hate them all, any more than you get to hate all black guys because some of them sell drugs to kids. Thats just bigotry, and it makes hate so much easier to spread. Just look at MAGA, and how easily it spread amongst them. All because nuance left the conversation, and everyone started to generalise. Its enough, it really is.
I did learn a lot of modding with my commitment to play gay characters at least. Thanks compulsory heterosexuality for teaching me to Google things like “Carth gay”!
One of the first mods I tried to mess with was The Underground for Morrowind (which Skyrim’s Dawnguard is 100% a rip off of btw) because it forces you into a het relationship as part of the storyline. Unfortunately, it was such a crashy mess that just changing all the gender checks didn’t help.
People assume heterosexual is the default and get pissy at anything else, they’re completely spoiled. I can’t really think of any video games which force you to be a gay dude, unless you’re playing like Dream Daddy? The Last of Us Part 2 has you play as a lesbian, and I guess the usual crowd did have a meltdown over Abby not looking like a Princess.
