I use irfanview, VLC and jellyfin. no problems.
I didn’t have time to check all the comments, so here’s a backup:
Just install GNU/Linux
;)
KDE Plasma let’s me use .jxl files as my wallpaper. I can also take screenshots in .jxl.
The operating system support for JPEG XL is really there! By now even Windows supports it natively. Not only previews in the file manager, but also in the media viewer.
Yeah, I copied a .jxl over to my Windows 11 VM out of curiosity and was surprised to see it opened just fine.
Same Plasma here. I’m using SHADERS as my background. Currently the Balatro menu shader.
What format is that? lol
taking a screenshot can solve some of this problem
I usually convert the image using FFMPEG and that works great.
I just rename it to a “.JPG” file extension and that seems to work ¯_(ツ)_/¯
It’s not 2015, we don’t need any more of those deep fried memes.
Is this a Windows problem I’m too Linux to understand?
Seriously, everything on my computer – Firefox, Dolphin, Gwenview, GIMP, etc. – supports webp just fine.
I’m too Linux to understand?
The advantage of using shared libraries is that you only need the one to support webp system-wide and then all apps that need it have it.
I guess it’s Windows users with the default image viewer. IrfanView on W10 handles webp fine for me.
IrfanView is GOAT. On par with VLC or Firefox IMO.
So does XnView, both Windows and Linux.
It’s an everywhere problem. A lot of sites and apps still don’t support it, but a most browsers do. So people download images from their browser, then they try to view / edit locally, or upload and share, and they hit a wall.
yes, because we just have 1 good libwebp library
Yes. As someone who uses both, this is a M$ problem.
We of the privileged Linux class.
Yeah, same here. No problem with webp on Linux Mint.
This is MS we’re talking about. Preview and Viewer are probably made by two different teams in different countries, sharing no code, and prohibited from communicating with each other, even if they know about the other’s existence.
And famously they fired all QAs years ago so there’s nobody to test before releasing.
I can almost guarantee that they would be using different things. usually you have simpler libraries to decode formats (almost 1 for each codec), and separate programs plug these libraries in to generate the output. previews do not have to be accurate and have to be fast, so a simpler program with just linear scaling or something, where as actual image would be complex which has to worry about accuracy.
still not a excuse to not have support for a free 15 year old format
One leveraging the graphics engine from internet explorer the other using the graphics engine from ms paint 1.0
I work in big tech and this is my life. I envy anyone who thinks you’re exaggerating, because that means they haven’t experienced the joy of spending weeks trying to track down the team responsible for a bug and then months hassling them to fix it.
And if they do talk to each other, the different departments need to go through the whole hierarchy for everything and each manager puts their spin on it, so you get answers back from questions that were not asked.
Here’s a real and true story about how separate Microsoft teams communicate and coordinate:
Few weeks ago, some Microsoft team from the US deprecated some critical service used by other Microsoft products. They just shut it off without notifying anyone. Other teams from other Microsoft offices in the rest of the world found about this deprecation when their production builds started failing to log customers in to the applications that they need for their businesses. People were called in from their vacations, emergency meetings were held to play hot potato with responsibility. Clients were PISSED. I stopped following the drama before it was resolved.
What is actually the best way to set up good communication between people and departments? Daily stand-ups tend to become hour long meetings. Make it an e-mail means people don’t read it half the time, some even having a rule to automatically shred that kind of mails. Set up talks between people and have a bunch of them not showing up but then get angry nobody asked them for their opinion.
For example a matrix org structure can do wonders.
Really, anything other than vertical hierarchical setup favored by so many tech companies.
Wait does this mean I work in little tech?
Little tech? Like, a micro company that makes software? A “micro-soft”, if you will.
No no, it needs to be more present, more ubiquitous, more “ubi-soft”
Oh, man.
I just stopped being hassled to fix a bug on somebody else’s system (that mine interops with), by the same developers responsible for maintaining that other system, because the problem got bad enough to escalate until somebody responsible for both sides looked.
That said, I was just ignoring them. But hell…
I imagine the two teams sharing the same desk through a hole in the wall like in Brazil.
The image viewer is probably just Edge in a trenchcoat by now.
I think way more of windows 11 is just edge in a trenchcoat than anyone wants to admit…
Can’t get away from it at work and i hate it. All we need computers for at work is web access and file sharing, but they still won’t budge from daddy Microsoft.
I wouldn’t mind if all those Electron apps could use it to save space, but no. Everything still comes with 600MB of Chromium bolted to it like a tumour.
I kept a copy of the old Windows XP version of media viewer/pictute viewer, whatever the hell its generic name was becsuse at some point in, IIRC, Vista, they updated it to some piece of garbage that had an uglier UI, worked slower, had no options for slideshows, and didn’t even support shit like animated .gifs.
Even that old ass program can open a .webp image.
Yo that was an absolute joke. Were they serious with that?
Windows handled gifs fine for years then suddenly only the first frame. Seriously?!
Wait how does that program know how to open webp? Does webp have like a fallback png mode or something?
Webp is a format Google made. Something gave it a codec, so it knows how to open it. It a program doesn’t have the codec to read it, no go.
This may work depending on your application https://github.com/jacklicn/libwebp
Ah fair enough, I thought that with it being Windows XP era software made by Microsoft, it wouldn’t load codecs dynamically like that lol
Yeah there was a codec pack made by klite that I use to download from the sketchiest sites. I think I used to use media player classic with that codec pack before I knew about VLC. Otherwise you’d be fighting all the time to play get things to play. You’d be downloading content from P2P sites like Napster, Kazaa, Limewire, and what not, and coming across file types you wouldn’t recognize (and a lot of content that wasn’t what you thought it was until after you opened it). Which is why many of us learned a decent amount about malware through our own naivety. Install sketchy software to play sketchy media, end up with sketchy results. But so many of us did it.
Windows media player was the most common way people knew to burn CDs that most of my friends knew. So you would either rip CDs that family members had, or download songs offline, try to get them all into the same file format and name/organized them into a nice playlist that went well together. And burn them and listen to them walking around. They were a big “gf/bf” gift back then as well. If you wanted to tell someone you liked them spending the time to curate a CD of songs you thought they would like mixed with ones you knew they like and giving them it with a personalized written track list on the top was a huge hit.
You may know all of this but it brings back some good memories. Haha. I remember doing that for a girl I liked in Elementary School… And subsequently being dumb enough to NOT know a girl who did that for me was into me. She made one of me and my friend because she was nervous about just giving one to me, and I of course thought, well she made one for him too so it might not mean what you think…
Couple years later in 7th grade she told me she had had the biggest crush on me back then and I was shocked. (Also may have been a clue that I should have picked up on, but I was to much of a doof still… oops)
Ah yeah I grew up on XP too, but it was early enough in my life that I barely remember. I did use the ol’ Windows Media Player for music before Winamp and BS Player (and then later VLC), but I don’t remember what I actually burned CDs with. I do think all my music off LimeWire worked just fine with WMP though, without having to download any codecs. But then at some point I started using iTunes because I had an iPod, maybe that had more codecs bundled with it too.
Last music CD I burned was in 2015 when I got my first car, a 1992 model with an aftermarket stereo that had a CD slot, and while it also had AUX, 3.5G wasn’t all that great everywhere and I didn’t have a 4G phone yet lol. Me and my then gf made it together so the styles were VERY varied lol, I had shit like Schoolboy Q while she had stuff like Tracy Chapman, it was quite literally a bipolar music CD.
What the hell, seriously?
I think it opens webp images, because it uses some built-in library (in your OS) to load and display images. WebP format was introduced in 2010, and Windows XP in 2001, so it couldn’t support it out of the box.
Irfanviewer hours
I know a bunch about computers and that doesn’t add up to me either!! I hate the webp format.
It means explorer is running in a web view
It doesn’t necessarily.
Webp is just a file format like jpg, or png or anything else. You can implement support for it in a native app just the same as any other format.
What certainly IS true is that browsers supported it first (because distributing media on the web is what it was designed for as a format) and a lot of native image viewer apps are still lagging behind on their support.
Webp is honestly a really good format for what its made to do. That being said, windows support for it is lacking for some reason. I don’t know why as it’s been common for a long time now.
Also, you can always use ffmpeg to convert to png or jpg or whatever you want. Simple file conversions like that are super easy.
.jxl is better though
I’m not familiar, but it does look useful. Seems to combine the best of both png and jpg, with the power of jpg’s compression with the option of lossless compression + support for transparency or whatever else you might want to have a channel for
Just use a proper Operating System and silly problems like that will go away.
Media viewer and the file browser are completely different programs with different support for media file types.
Not that this is an excuse for Media Viewer to not open webp files. Also asking you to pay for h265 support is extra ridiculous.
I just use VLC for everything.
They are made by the same company and sold as a unified software package under the name Windows 11 [edition]
I loathe windows, but I did just double check because this sounds inept even for M$ – Win photos will absolutely open .webp, but it’s not the default program for whatever reason and it just defaults to edge /
your_default_web_browser_here. Which is just impressively on brand for microsoft. Even when they have a feature they hide it to, idk, make themselves look even worse! Why not!proof
(FWIW this is a clean install, I do not have any non-default codecs installed)
Yeah, it’s sorted through WIC iirc. As long as you have the codec installed you should be able to open it.
THANK YOU. you just saved me so much time with the knowledge.
real reason is that microsoft doesn’t want to pay $0.50 in licensing fees from some patent trolls
is webp patented? good I hate IP laws
No, i was confused with heic
Sounds like windows people sticking to bmp images back when it was all it would support.
What are the odds I happen to be watching Mean Girls on Pluto when I scroll across this meme.
It is though. So many websites have converted their embedded feeds ti show a webp version regardless of what you upload.
It already happened years ago. It’s supported and widely used. Why do people keep posting this misinformational meme?
I was trying to write something that would save an AVIF image this week. Holy shit the ecosystem is bad. I had to encode the image and write the exif tags with two different libraries. The latter being a CLI program and not a library. The WEBP situation is even worse.
We are never getting away from JPEG.
Irfanview is the answer.
I don’t even know what the question was tbh, but I’m still right.
not allowing webp is the answer.
webp, as the name suggests, is a web image format. not a digital image format.
webp is a fucking cancer and deserves to be put in the same place betamax and 8-tracks were left to rot.
Why is it bad? Like what should I use instead on my website for images and icons?
webp is fine for web publishing.
I have a problem with websites that use middleware that makes webp masquerade as jpg or png. so when you go to save it locally, it’s a surprise webp.
not only that, webp is a standard that google made and pushed into the web consortium. I explicitly hate anything Google forces on the Internet.
The lossless mode is great (but more limited than PNG), the lossy mode sucks though. Like it only supports a quarter of the colour resolution compared to formats like JPEG.
Also being a video format, it’s not actually tuned to store still images, it likes to blur/smear things.
Edit: But if you’re using it for the intended purpose, low resolution previews, thumbnails and stuff like branding, it’s fine. I wouldn’t use it where quality matters.
There are many valid criticisms one can make of webp; perhaps discussing the pros and cons. Rather than using those you instead went after it’s name not being linguistically accurate.
A bold strategy cotton.
Unless the question was do you use faststone 😉
Irfanview is always the answer!
I remember when you could’ve made this meme about PNGs.
And in a SANE world, somebody who learned a lesson would be using their knowledge so we don’t keep repeating the same crap over and over again.
It’s Microsoft you are talking about here
Hear me out:
AI-powered webp supportMany more possibility for exploits
I remember it being suggested that AI image generators could be used as an extremely lossy image format, since you can generally get the same generator to output the same image given the same weights, seed, settings and prompt
