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    Moments like this are why people get frustrated—tools should get out of the way, not add extra hoops. Everyone’s setup works… until it suddenly doesn’t.

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    Always remember: Your OS should do nothing more than provide a GUI for you to access apps and run apps. Anything else is not necessary.

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          The lines you draw are so arbitrary but at least you’re prepared to die on those hills.

          Prey tell, what is this OS of yours that is not coercive and doesn’t contain bloat, yet has a full GUI as part of the operating system?

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            Okay be real, you want to do all your networking config and drive pools and high availability all through the CLI?? There’s still a reason I use the CLI in the GUI but thats just nuts

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      From a non-technical user’s pov kinda true.

      But not true at all when you enumerate the actual responsibilities of an OS.

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      I also want it to have a built-in clock and calendar in the taskbar. But Microsoft won’t even let me have that! They got rid of the calendar!

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        I still see a calendar if I click the clock on my work laptop. Though that might have been one of the settings I clicked while wondering why MS even thought this should change.

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          Ah, you’re right. Instead of bringing up the calendar, it brings up notifications, and you have to click a little pop-up button to see the calendar. Thank God I only have to worry about this on my work computer.

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      The OS shouldn’t even do that. That’s the job of the display manager and desktop environment

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    For anyone who’s interested, Microsoft have provided an update that’s about as helpful as you might have expected, right at the top of the Github issue where this has been reported.

    ! Note

    What we Know

    • There is an issue impacting all store applications on Windows as of 2026-01-21.
    • There have been some reports that choosing to Repair the Terminal application has restored it to working order.

    Source

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      There have been some reports that choosing to Repair the Terminal application has restored it to working order.

      … Or, you know, dont hook that shit so tight into your store that it breaks if the store is offline or something gets messed up? I have personally never seen applications randomly stop working on Linux (Unless i did something stupid, i once fucked up glibc for all flatpaks system-wide on Fedora), specially now that im on NixOS, its just not possible for a program’s files to get corrupted on NixOS since the store is read-only (Of course if it doesnt gracefully handle config errors and the config gets corrupted then it will break, but often times it would just be deleting the file and letting it create a new one, not reinstalling the application).

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    I’m guessing this is a misleading post? Probably a random app in the store that’s called “terminal” that is broken and the actual windows command prompt is working fine.

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      We use Windows 11 at work. One of the desktops has an error where you can log in but windows displays a notification to the effect of “You’re not logged in, your settings and app preference aren’t available.”

      Other than Edge most of the built in programs don’t work. No errors, no notifications – clicking the icon to open them does nothing. Notepad, file explorer, etc.

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      Can confirm this is an actual issue from Microsoft impacting lots of normal system apps that update via the Microsoft Store and/or Windows Update.

      I’ve seen it mess up Notepad, Snipping Tool to name a few.

      It’s pretty egregious that a bug like this can mess up utilities already installed on your computer.

      Windows is really feeling like a single-player video game that requires an always on connection.

      Source: I’m an IT professional who has been helping people with this since yesterday.

      More source: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/5729246/how-to-fix-error-code-0x803f8001

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          They’re preparing to rent people desktop access over the internet. Gotta trim up that you don’t own shit store code.

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        Is that the same update that broke Windows App* authentication?

        * their idiotic name for the new remote desktop

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      I maintain over a hundred windows 11 machines. I recently push new software that I had to manually configure on each machine. While doing this I checked for problems. Over half had terminal and other programs like notepad installed separately. All the machines are in a domain environment but windows 11 ignores many of the GPO’s I have in place. Its pathetic and just a reason to have to do more work. So I have no problem believing that terminal had been installed and then disabled due to some microsoft account nonsense.

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      Hating windows is the ultimate karma farm here on Lemmy. If you can somehow hate windows and Trump in one post, expect to see that shit at the top.

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    Probably using some AI to do fuzzy authentication or something. I had a window pop up like this on my work laptop for some random app it was checking for updates on but failed to authenticate for (just for that app, no other errors, hasn’t popped up again since).

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    And of course that error code just means “there was an issue with the store” WOW THANKS SO MUCH DETAIL TO GO OFF OF

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      Technically the numerical code still gives you a precise search key to find other people discussing the same issue.

      … You know, as would be useful for a serious operating system where online support doesn’t mean trawling the bowels of Reddit praying somebody’s had the same issue and found a reproducible solution.

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        Hello I’m a 12 year Microsoft MVP and Certified independent advisor here to help.

        Please type “CMD” into the start menu then type “ckdsk /f /r”

        If this solved your issue please click on “Accept as solution”!

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          Unrealistic. Every repair on Windows starts with DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth followed by sfc /scannow

          …wait. no… That’s the correct way. The MS MVP in the forum always mix it up and tell you to run them in reverse…

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          The one time I used that official forum I did my due diligence and laid out what I ended up doing to solve my problem as well as responding to the other person with a similar one. I am not DenverCoder9.

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          This is the only part I despise of forum culture like MDL or the likes.

          If you have a solution, or even better: if you have written software or a guide for this, please just publish it online.

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            What I hate is when I find a solution for some old post but it’s locked because “you should just make a new question” well FUCK YOU BECAUSE SEARCH ENGINES GO THERE AND I HAVE THE ANSWER AND I WANT TO HELP PEOPLE! BUT FUCK ME I GUESS 😭

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              It feels like a bunch of moderation decisions are made by people just trying to satisfy some arbitrary OCD-like requirements. Like “you can’t reply to an old conversation” or “you can’t talk about a problem someone has already talked about”. That stuff is worse than the people who reply useless shit like RTFM (aka “I go to helo forums not to provide help but to gloat about the things I know that you don’t and act like every single comment is addressed to me personally and needs my input”) because at least those useless comments don’t kill the rest of the conversation.

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                Yeah, a lot of upholding the letter of the law instead of the spirit of the law as well as following rules without really critically evaluating why they’re rules in the first place. (Example: Answering an old thread should be fine, but folks just view it as bad and lock them.)

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        “Question: I am getting error with code 0xblahblahblah. How to fix?”

        “Deleted response”

        Reply 1: “Youre a life saver mate, thank you.”

        Reply 2: “I would kiss you if you were here”

        Reply 3: “Absolute legend, this fix is so obvious, thank you for pointing it out!”

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        I have copied down and manually typed out numbers like that many times when using windows. I’m not sure it ever once helped me in the slightest.

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              I think the windows connection help wizard might have actually fixed a connection issue I had once. Out of more chances than I probably should have given it, considering how often it did dick all, despite my phone’s connection being fine.

              I think there’s a rare race condition or something in the windows network stack because I’ve had four different machines suddenly lose the ability to connect to working networks, where sometimes toggling airplane mode would fix it, sometimes even that wouldn’t do anything and it needed a restart. It happened more often with wireless connections, but I’ve seen it affect wired ones, too.

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        The problem is that “the same issue” here means “there’s any error at all with the MS Store”. Any discussion about there will be useless.

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        Except the code covers SUCH a vague issue that it’s useless. Not very precise when any issue with the store gives you the same code. Maybe it couldn’t find a DNS record for the online store. Maybe its local db is corrupt. Maybe it’s been locked out administratively. Doesn’t matter which root cause, same error code, so it’s not a “precise” error code.

        These may not be the case in this instance, but in many, many other instances, it sure has been

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      And if you look up tech support on this, it’s all unrelated nonsense tips. Even in the official sources it doesn’t go much beyond turn it off/on, reset the settings, reinstall the app or reinstall the OS. While this might “solve” stuff, it doesn’t fix the core issue and the issue might re-occur without a fix. Why go through all the trouble of wiping and reinstalling, if there is often a very focused and simple fix that truly solves the issue. But Microsoft has started making it harder for users to have ownership over their systems for years now. Keep your users dumb, then you can control them.

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      I’d guess the dialog was written by an AI that was never told to go implement the help function, but I know that the automated help or button to find help online rarely worked before AIs were capable of doing much of anything with code. Though odds are the broken non-AI help buttons were replaced with broken AI help buttons that were trained using the original broken code.

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        It’s always a link to a microsoft support page that lists one question some guy had three years ago with 5000 “I also have this problem” checkmarks and a single answer from an unpaid MS mod that basically tells you to restart your computer and then marks the question answered and permanently closed.

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      I had a similar error with a different application. Clicking “Get help with this” just opened the Documents folder in Explorer.

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    Its a work device so I’m signed in like a good little corporate peon, still they manage to fuck it up.

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      Then your IT has blocked use of the terminal and store for your account.
      Which makes sense for regular users to reduce the chance of fuck-ups and rise of a shadow IT.
      This isn’t a Microsoft issue (except for the slightly unspecific error message).

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    You see, the problem is, that you try to open the Terminal on Windows Home or Pro. Personal use doesn’t include advanced features like Terminal access. Please upgrade to a Windows Enterprise License to continue to be able to use the Terminal.

    Alternatively you may try using Copilot to run commands and change system settings in a text based environment.

    /s

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      Finally, a use for my backups based on FreeFileSync

      wipes entire drive

      installs linux mint

      Now where the fuck did I put that nice start menu icon creation GUI app…

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    I recently tried to install librewolf onto a W11 machine from the windows store. It won’t even launch that. Not even an error or nothing just gone.

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      don’t use the windows store, when not required you can never know what else they package into your apps. google and amazon’s android app stores do this, the latter is even open about adding tracking libs to apps

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        Well that’s the thing, it’s a pc I’m required to use and it got everything else behind administrators password if you catch my drift. (If I had my way it would be Linux)

        For now I’ll have to make due with a ff that I tweak by hand where I can.

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          Don’t be too mean, but make sure your admin feels the heat.

          Linux is good enough for the desktop for a fuckton of businesses. gentle pressure may get us there in a generatiohn or two

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    i was about to suggest using winget to reinstall it but then i realized that would require a functional terminal to accomplish, something i had taken for granted

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      Surely the underlying cmd cli is still there even if the Terminal app wrapper is broken

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        yeah, back when I was maining windows, I went through a lot of trouble to install non-store versions.

        Of course, some places lock down their employees too much for them to do that

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          We can’t even use Windows store. We have a bespoke portal that has a very small list of approved programs to install.

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            Yup, I know just where that happens. It’s probably a joy to work in your IT. They probably have a keyboard macro for “no”