Stumbled across this screenshot. Now, instead of judging people for yourself, the computer can do it for you!!! This will in no way be used negatively by Reddit nor people who are arguing with each other. Original post is here, if anyone still has Reddit maybe go spread the good word of Lemmy and Piefed to these users :P
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What they’re talking about here is a blueprint for stamping out individuality.
it will be nothing more than grok and FB combined soon enough. the only reason reddit has completely astroturfed left leaning content, is because it allows right wingers to drive up engagement in those subs.
Omg, you are such a Monica.
Human personalities can be clustered into which member of the cast of Friends they most resemble.
Fortunately, Friends is so brilliantly written that they managed to capture the entire spectrum of human diversity.
(this is snark. I am totally a Chandler.)
Could you be any more Chandler?
nothing shows up for profiles viewed on old.reddit.com.
huzzah!
Old Reddit is the only reason why I visit it sporadically. Combined with RES, I still have the same basic keybindings to browse I had multiple years ago. The new UI of Reddit is a waste of space.
Sounds an awful lot like the social credit score China was working on a few years back. Wouldn’t be surprised if mods start preemptively banning users based on their AI summaries.
Mods already use bots to preemptively ban you based on what subreddits you have left comments on regardless of context.
And Black Mirror was before that with the idea.
And Corey Doctorow did it before that in Down And Out In The Magic Kingdom.
This really makes me think the Amish were right after all with regards to modern tech.
Huh. That’s actually not a terrible idea.
I wouldn’t automate moderation attached to that (yet), but to give people a tool to gauge if a responder is just disagreeing or is a frequent troll? Yeah, that could work. Better than having to dig through the literary works of some rando stuck in an argument with you when deciding whether to block or report them.
Worst case the summary isn’t particularly accurate, but for the reasons you’d be digging through someone’s post backlog that’s not that big of a deal anyway.
Are moderators this lazy?
I don’t know that you can accuse a volunteer of laziness, just on principle.
I’ll say that moderation is the single hardest problem of the Internet. Corporations being lazy and cheap about it, plus deliberately neglecting it because lack of moderation drives engagement, has led to… let me check my notes… ah, yes, the end of democracy and civil society as we understand it.
So… you know. There’s that part.
I don’t know that AI is a silver bullet for it, you get lots of problems if you cut humans off that loop, and a lot of the issues are deliberate corporate choices. But, you know, we hadn’t already messed this up beyond repair, any tool in that toolbox would have been welcomed.
I have an account on Gab and when the website was new, they created a New Zealand group. It had no moderation from about 2019 until 2024. The only problem we had was this one guy who was using software to automate posts all the time. He flooded the group for months (years maybe) until my friend paid for a Pro account and was allowed to become the administrator. We banned the bots and that was it.
We’ve never had to delete anyone’s posts because we aren’t trying to artificially steer conversations or ban people for having the wrong opinion. If someone posted a couple of times a day, strongly disagreeing with us and calling us names, we wouldn’t even bother to ban them. Maybe block on our individual accounts but we can still click to read their posts even if we’re blocking them. Surprisingly, our group is public but we don’t need to moderate it. Not with humans or automation. After the CEO of Gab banned “third world” IP addresses from the website, it pretty much stopped spam. Reddit uses all of this tracking technology to give people a social credit score but Gab just bans third world countries and has people who can take a joke.
The image of the hard-working, burnt-out reddit moderator is a joke to me. If there’s too much moderation needed, it’s probably a control-freak issue or maybe they need to ban certain countries where a significant amount of spam comes from.
See? It took me two posts and a depressing dive into this guy’s posts this time.
There’s definitely room for tool assistance here.
Or you could have thicker skin and get away with basically zero moderation.
Nah.
I was a moderator once. I didn’t want to be, but was asked to help. It’s incredibly boring, unfulfilling, and a chore. You are the supervisor of the playground during recess and there’s always some moron eating sand or a fight breaking out over which dinosaur is best.
Though, if there’s concise rules, job’s easier.
“Miiiiiss! Daniels being mean again!”
“I don’t care you little shits.” Taps rule board and sips more wine from a World’s Best Teacher mug
Sounds like the sewer of the internet. If there’s so much trouble then people need to make private clubs where users have to apply to join and only a handful get in per week. I moderate a couple of groups on Gab and I’ve never banned anyone except people who used automated software to flood the groups. Arguments are actually funny and we don’t stop them. Just because someone’s “hot take” offends someone it doesn’t mean we ban. Even if half the users were offended we wouldn’t ban. We are adults on Gab unlike reddit. I don’t log into Gab looking to moderate and patrol for trouble because it’d make the website less fun for everyone. We aren’t a bunch of sissies but neither are we an image board for pornographers and freaks. I think the problem is reddit and the idiots it attracts. Once people get out of their twenties they will discover other websites and stop using reddit. The problem is that there are always new children being born, then they’re allowed to post online and suddenly the problems you describe appear.
Yeah, that’s the attitude I took. If I don’t care, it can’t be that bad.
Honestly, the vast majority of reports come from one’s ego going “tink” because someone tossed a pebble at it. Rarely did a report actually have serious merit to it.
I’ve always been of the opinion that if you need a mod to sort something out for you, it’s not the nook and cranny of the internet for you and just move onto one of the infinite more. The only things that should be reported and actioned on are those that threaten the nook and/or cranny itself—malicious shit against it’s integrity, basically.
Regardless, I never want to mod an online social space ever again. Oh! I did two, but the other one was just a forum and it too had it’s 1 in 200 bad eggs.
and there is always someone who is pissing off other users and tip toeing on the edge of the rules. Then if you ban them they get mega mad and start a campaign against the mods.
I banned someone for using automated software to flood a group on Gab once. Apart from that we don’t have rules in the New Zealand Gab group. Nobody can tip toe on the edge of rules when there are only about three rules: don’t doxx, don’t threaten violence and don’t post pornography. Someone either does these things or they don’t, there’s really no toe tipping here. The guy we banned did complain - his bot software must have warned him that the posts were failing. He didn’t start a campaign against us.
i’ll tip $5 to the first person who makes the ai say a slur
If I get it to call itself a clanker does that count?
it would need to get censored on network tv
That means that even the N word wouldn’t count… 🤔
“The user is a frequent poster to ‘ebony’ porn subreddits…”
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
i wonder what my old Reddit account is.
I edited all my comments to be generic observations, so the only really useful metrics would be where and what I commented on
i couldn’t even find the shit feature anyway
I read about a political polling company that will begin creating AI bot versions of the people that they poll. And they will use those AI bots to ask additional questions in the future. Questions that may not exist at the time of the poll.
Imagine what companies like Reddit will be able to do with their user data and advertisers.
Amazon uses something similar to summarize product reviews, and it seems fine… But who knows how accurate it is.
(considering amazon reviews are completely dogshit and mostly bought off I’d imagine not very)
did you guys not use reddit detective back in the day?
also…
you get what you get in that shit show anyway.
I did, but the key difference is that it didn’t make an evaluation for you. It just gave you a collection of facts with some hard-coded things to look out for.
The new thing is way worse. It’s just skipping the facts part entirely.
It’s just skipping the facts part entirely.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Vibe facts are just as valid as normal facts. ChatGPT told me so. /s
I felt gross typing that.
Alternative facts.
Alternative Intelligence facts.
No no no, we keep that name, vibe fact, it sounds more accurate.
Reddit won’t ban the shitheads but they will summarize their post history so you can better determine who the shitheads are! …thanks?
Narrator : “they were all shit heads”
It’s not just Reddit, anything public is being scraped by AI and all anyone has to do is just ask any of the LLMs and they can provide the same kind of summary…
I tried this recently with my name and it couldn’t find anything. Using RNG usernames may be the play because they’re so generic :P
I was actually able to run it on a couple different users and it was very in-depth. On your username in particular it showed this thread so they must be searching the web for the username. It could be that newer models are searching more instances than they were before as well.
This clearly shows that such implementation of AI is a solution that still seeks for the problem. Such summary doesn’t add anything helpful. On top of this, since AI is known to hallucinate, one has to check the comments for themselves, making a summary obsolete.
Outside of medicine or other data analysis, AI doesn’t have much of a use.
Generating bland corporate copy/logos?
If I was still posting on Reddit, shit like this would immediately prompt me to delete all my stuff
Just deleted my account. This was the final straw.
It’s helpful in the nominal sense of allowing mods to dismiss people without having to do any work themselves. Which is precisely the problem AI is designed to solve… human beings have to do work and make judgemental calls. People generally do not like doing work if it can be avoided.
Holy fuck!
